What did Yoshi mean when he said that the combat system will change in 4.0

**Rongway** · 12-19-2016 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Right? They make me nervous whenever they mention improving useless skills. That isn't going to help button bloat. Feint is so useless, I don't even have it on my hotbar!

I'm not sure why this is even a thing. Including class actions, five cross class actions, and all quest actions through 60, a majority of jobs (seven, and DRG is one of these) have only 32 actions; three have 33; and NIN has 35 (if you do the sensible thing and put Ninjutsu-Chi-Jin-Ten-Ninjutsu on your bar; 34 if you have only one Ninjutsu button or play by controller). Sure, the new abilities coming from 61 to 70 could require bar conservation efforts, but as things stand right this moment, the only jobs that eat up extra bars are the ACN specialists, if pet commands get placed on normal bars.

**Madepossible** · 12-17-2016 11:57 PM

Rip my two hotbar skills on two rows, can't avoid having a third row now x)

**Canadane** · 12-18-2016 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by Madepossible

Rip my two hotbar skills on two rows, can't avoid having a third row now x)

I use five.
Seven if in PvP!

**Madepossible** · 12-18-2016 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Canadane

I use five.
Seven if in PvP!

On PC I think it's manageable,, but if you play on the ps4 pro with a controller: it's a lot of swapping!! *cries*

**AnaviAnael** · 12-18-2016 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by Madepossible

On PC I think it's manageable,, but if you play on the ps4 pro with a controller: it's a lot of swapping!! *cries*

I use a controller and have 3 hotbars. It sucked at first, but you do get used to it eventually. There's also that new Y hotbar they released, but it wasn't my cup of tea. *hands over a tissue* Dry those tears, you will still be awesome. >: )

But, I think Meeka19 is correct. Don't ask me where I read this, but I believe the devs mentioned they were going to add more traits instead of abilities this time around.

**Madepossible** · 12-18-2016 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by AnaviAnael

I use a controller and have 3 hotbars. It sucked at first, but you do get used to it eventually. There's also that new Y hotbar they released, but it wasn't my cup of tea. *hands over a tissue* Dry those tears, you will still be awesome. >: )

But, I think Meeka19 is correct. Don't ask me where I read this, but I believe the devs mentioned they were going to add more traits instead of abilities this time around.

Much obliged! Three hotbars already? 0.0 mmmm more traits would be nice! I do imagine you have to work on a 4th hotbar *huggles* I had to be creative at some point cos for example when im on mnk, I have blood for blood plus Internal Release fused in one button! OmO

**Canadane** · 12-18-2016 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Madepossible

On PC I think it's manageable,, but if you play on the ps4 pro with a controller: it's a lot of swapping!! *cries*

With the W cross hotbar, you can have 6 bars at once without any hotswap (which takes much less than a GCD either way).
48 skills at your fingertips, and more just a button tap away isn't extremely hard to work with.

**Thunda_Cat_SMASH** · 12-18-2016 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Madepossible

Rip my two hotbar skills on two rows, can't avoid having a third row now x)

7 hot bars, 8 for PvP, all of which are frequently used. I play on controller too.

**Voltyblast** · 12-18-2016 11:03 AM

Even if I recently unsubbed from the game, this is definitely the one and only detail that interests me from the possible expansion (I'm not even bothered of the new jobs: they'll most likely be copy cats of what we already have, unless they'll surprise me).
If it's interesting enough I'll definitely check it out again when the expansion hits again...if not I'll just stay away.

PS: And no speed is fine.

**NolLacnala** · 12-18-2016 11:13 AM

We action combat now? Gotta manually aim Jump, woo!

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