@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

[ReplicaX]

So...what's all that about DRK not luring people to try/play a tank? Hmmm....

Reading the entire thread I really don't see many arguing about DRK appeal at all. I certainly did not in any way.

My point and many others just want something different continuing forward in the Role. Which we have had so far and continuing to branch out with the current tanks with the level cap increases.

2% gain, I honestly expected more out of DRK.

Naoki Yoshida, as you can see most people here want a DPS tank, I mean they want to do damage so think about this: make it a over the edge Damage dealer tank like Warrior.

Your thread mainly turned into ppl wanting SAM as a DPS Role and not a Tank. Which has been requested since the game came out.

[Galaktica]

I want Samurai to be a tank because it seems like that would make the most amount of people angry.

[ReplicaX]

I want Samurai to be a tank because it seems like that would make the most amount of people angry.

Meh... I'd accept SAM in either. I feel a RDM would add more fuel to the fire.

[Savagelf]

blue mage tank would awesome weild dual scimatars

[GMERC]

blue mage tank would awesome weild dual scimatars

If Blue Mage isn't a caster DPS it's basically a completely wasted job. Stop using Final Fantasy XI as some sort of template that this game should follow by default for its job design. I don't want Samurai to be a tank, but I'm willing to accept that it could still be fitting as one. The same goes for Red Mage potentially being fitting as a Healer (and not at all fitting as a Tank).

Blue Mage as anything but a caster betrays its identity pretty hard.

[Alacran]

I just don't understand how RDM is not an answer to the completely "necessary" sword DPS. For that matter BLU(or RDM) the idea of a dual wielding scimitar(rapiers) swordsman DPS should have so many little Kiriho wannabes giggling with glee.

The idea of the massive rework needed to make the vaunted RDM TANK would in essence change many of the core staples of existing tanking mechanics, there by changing the whole way they are played. Effectively, your asking one group to change everything they know to accommodate a single option being proposed by a player base that are not TANKS...

Fending armor already in the game has the dubious honor of being used by three different jobs atm. Do you honestly feel that's a coincidence? An overlooked design flaw? The poles reveal what we all know, Tanking is stressful, full of responsibility, and a necessary role far to often shouldered by far to few. Understanding this, seeing the data in black and white the devs know that any increase, however marginal is absolutely a success. The opposite being a a drop in tanking numbers that would bring an already tenuous balance to a breaking point. We all saw the memes funny as they were they would have echoed far truer had DRK not been introduced.


Take a moment to really think about this objectively, the best way to have a successful launch(jump potions included *retch*) is to have a player base more quickly be allowed to enjoy the newest content as seamlessly as possible. This includes having a balanced set of new job that evenly distribute new and old players among roles needed to gain access to new content. Looking at what the current storyline has established what feasible job could A.) Bring people to a role notorious for unpopularity across every mmo following the trinity system, through sheer popularity of it's real and mythological history. B.) Has a theme not already shared by two already existing jobs(eastern fighter). C,) Would make the most sense to use due to not needing to rework core systems, create new class of gear specifically for it?

I could also mention that assets from Heavensward could be used from when it was first conceptualized as a TANK (tell me again the assets were used for DRK, a job using a greatswords and the power of darkness) and were in fact down to the wire, DRK edging out due to mere setting.

Even as i say this i won't be surprised if it is a DPS, i really hope it's not but the fanboy outcry would be thunderous (or what ever you call lots of really loud wailing). I'll level it once i get through MSQ with my main (even if SAM is a TANK. DRK will stay my main) I'll watch the FATE spaming SAM armies trip over themselves, maybe run some PoTD and watch the FFXIV equivalent to the end of The Last Samurai as they all rush around getting blown up by landmines and other traps. Good times, lot to look forward to.

[EdwinLi]

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Ya it is more about getting players to play a Tank in Group content instead of only playing it in non-group content. You can have a entire Map of Players playing SAM Tank or Dark Knight Tank and if you ask all of them, while some how get all of them to answer the question, how many of them even play that Tank Job in group content then majority would probably say they don't bother with Group content, dungeons and etc, which is why they level their Tank Job in easy non-group required contents such as mindlessly grinding FATEs.

[ReplicaX]

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Regardless of the outcome, it's not something I will personally cry or be upset about. DRK and SAM have backgrounds in the series as both Tanks and DPS. There was some outcry when DRK was announced as a Tank and many wanted it DPS. I feel they did a good job fitting it in XIV as a tank and accepted by the community once ppl got their hands on it.

Community wise SAM will have outcry, just because it has been a popular request since even 1.0 to have a SAM DPS job.

RDM, if SE can make it work in the role they decide, regardless of the outcome. The more the merrier. If anything a RDM DPS will please a ton of former XI players, besides those interested in the job itself. My true intentions and opinion were to have RDM stir the pot this time around.

[AlphaFox]

I know I won't argue whichever class SAM gets but why does everyone assume they will use a giant Katana or sword as well? I mean I didn't play it in 11 but seeing as some people like to pull up historical, they have been known to dual wield as well. Would people still say yay if that is the outcome? Cus only developers know for sure, just gotta keep an open mind.

[GMERC]

I know I won't argue whichever class SAM gets but why does everyone assume they will use a giant Katana or sword as well? I mean I didn't play it in 11 but seeing as some people like to pull up historical, they have been known to dual wield as well. Would people still say yay if that is the outcome? Cus only developers know for sure, just gotta keep an open mind.

Why do people assume Dragoons use Spears?