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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    There are no healing sword classes, make Samurai a healer. Instead of casting magick the Samurai cuts the players back to good health.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    i dont get this obsesion about SAM dps only for -whe dont have a "long sword dps"- SAM or RDM both use sword and one at least go to be dps so i dont get why so much obsesion for something is just pure aesthetic and dont give nothing to the role.

    and yeah whe NEED another tank in stromblood, have 3 jobs for 2 spots are hard to balance more when 2 are very tie to MT and the other is pretty happy in OT spot, have 2 MT and 2 OT make more easy see if one job is pretty strong or if lack in something, if we get more and more dps jobs whe need more tanks and healers to grow proportionally, and wth tanks and healers we deserve new jobs to play too.

    anyway if samurai come in stormblood is no matter now, the devs already choose the role and sure is under development now,
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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    i dont get this obsesion about SAM dps only for -whe dont have a "long sword dps"- SAM or RDM both use sword and one at least go to be dps so i dont get why so much obsesion for something is just pure aesthetic and dont give nothing to the role.
    aesthetics are the only reason i play WHM over AST. aesthetics are one of the main reasons i play DRK and started tanking... and aesthetics are also the only reason i will never play monk...

    for me aesthetics are really important, even more than the actual gameplay. of course gameplay is also important, but if i don't like to watch my class, when i don't like the weapon, the animations, the overall style of a class, i will have no fun playing this class.

    but however. that also means i don't care if the SAM is a DD, or tank. when i like the style of SAM i will play it anyway ^^
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    Last edited by Tint; 12-17-2016 at 11:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
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    thats my point, if ppl whant so badly have a long sword dps why i dont see it asking in every threat for RDM dps, i guess ppl asume RDM go to be dps yes or yes but when ppl ask or say "i want RDM tank" they dont get so salty about it, what i want to say yeah SAM is cool and ppl want it to they side even if they only argument is "whe dont have a sword dps, or tanks have already a 2 hands sword job" when you have RDM saying "hi im here, i can be a cool sword dps too, j-just love me " but no, is "SAM dps or riot"
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    "whe dont have a sword dps, or tanks have already a 2 hands sword job" when you have RDM saying "hi im here, i can be a cool sword dps too, j-just love me " but no, is "SAM dps or riot"
    if i am correctly Red Mage uses a rapier, not a "real" sword. so, nope, i would never love Red Mage if i wanted a SWORDfighter. red mage is... well, a mage with a rapier.

    tanks already have a one handed sword (paladin) and a two handed sword (dark knight). why not give DDs a one handed "sword" with red mage and a two handed sword with samurai? also do we really need a fourth slashing weapon on the tank side? i would like to see the next tank uses a hammer o.o/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
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    depend of the game, red mage apears in many ff games using many types of weapons, in most of the they use a sword or a cimatar and other like ff tactics use a rapier, thats depend of how you look it and what type of sword SE want to add to RDM.

    for my point of view if SE add SAM as tank i think is pretty fair add RDM with a sword instead of a rapier.

    slashing, blunt or pearcing damage means nothing in the game excep how you interact with the other jobs, add a blunt damage tank means tie it to a monk for damage except they make it have they own blunt resistance down with cant stack or directly make it stack but is the same, that make that tank need to go with monk alwais to get that extra damage.
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    Last edited by shao32; 12-18-2016 at 01:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    if i am correctly Red Mage uses a rapier, not a "real" sword. so, nope, i would never love Red Mage if i wanted a SWORDfighter. red mage is... well, a mage with a rapier.

    tanks already have a one handed sword (paladin) and a two handed sword (dark knight). why not give DDs a one handed "sword" with red mage and a two handed sword with samurai? also do we really need a fourth slashing weapon on the tank side? i would like to see the next tank uses a hammer o.o/
    Red Mages uses all kind of short and long sword. Rapier is just one of the weapons they use. Red mage uses similar weapons to paladin, except heavy shields and heavy swords. Don't think only on the damn FFXI, think on all FF. In some FF they even use canes and shields.
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    Mnk is excluded form raiding huh hmm I'm a mnk main and I'm doing just fine thanks for thinking of us though
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    no job is excluded for raiding, all can do it, other think is the "is not optimal" way of think many have here, anyway RDM is melee, at least was a melee job in the other games, i dont think they are planing to have 5 melees jobs for 2 spots (idk what to think if they add it like a ranged), plus with the skills rework i hope they make monk more desirable in they expansion for raiding.
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Summoner Lv 70
    I'll say it again that SE won't be wrong with either role they decide to assign Samurai, though I'd be smiling mischievously upon seeing Yoshi announcing the job as a tank.
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