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  1. #51
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    Katana Azurite
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    How can you tell someone to not speak for the community, yet you just did?
    I lol'ed. The Community is always arguing SAM Tank vs SAM DPS, if people paid attention to this subject before commenting they should know how the community is very divided on this particular subject, its pretty unfair to just say "the community wants it to be a DPS". Go figure there are more DPS players... I'm very Pro SAM Tank but ever since my first argument on this subject I've been very open to the possibility of SAM being either Tank or DPS. I wish Pro SAM DPS people have the same mindset but I see a lot of them being very close minded.

    Edit: I just really look forward to how SAM is made! Be it Tank or DPS, like a previous player mentioned I really hope they go for a set of Daisho , and maybe have a unique mechanic like manipulating their ancestors aether to perform spirit arts!
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    Last edited by Katana190; 12-17-2016 at 12:24 PM.

  2. #52
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    Rex Inferorum
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Katana190 View Post
    I lol'ed. The Community is always arguing SAM Tank vs SAM DPS, if people paid attention to this subject before commenting they should know how the community is very divided on this particular subject, its pretty unfair to just say "the community wants it to be a DPS". Go figure there are more DPS players... I'm very Pro SAM Tank but ever since my first argument on this subject I've been very open to the possibility of SAM being either Tank or DPS. I wish Pro SAM DPS people have the same mindset but I see a lot of them being very close minded.
    They also magically forget red mage is basically 98% confirmed and they also use blades as well. It's like RDM being a dps doesn't even register in their minds.
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    Last edited by FinalWolf; 12-17-2016 at 01:00 PM.

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    They also magically forget red mage is basically 98% confirmed and they also so blades as well. It's like RDM being a dps doesn't even register in their minds.
    Right! One of the most iconic sword users in FF. Its also RED Mage, maybe a bit of a moot point but I cant imagine seeing Red Mage in a party with a BLUE or GREEN icon... I highly believe it will be a DPS using a Sword/Rapier and weaving spells making it a true Hybrid and fitting the slot of the 4th melee DPS and also int based.. Because its a Mage of sorts, cant see it not using int imo
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  4. #54
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    Saikhan Kha
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    I'd ask for it to not be a tank. The 2-handed sword wielding class is already a tank, there really doesn't need to be a second one. There's not even a sword wielding DPS class yet.
    This

    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly View Post
    As far as I know the community wants SAM not to be a tank. It's okay to say that's what you want and what you feel is right but speaking for the community like that as if the majority wants tank SAM is simply not the truth.
    and this.

    I want Samurai to be a dps.

    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    They also magically forget red mage is basically 98% confirmed and they also so blades as well. It's like RDM being a dps doesn't even register in their minds.
    What you're not taking into account is that DPS generally dont use healing spells at all. However, healers do use DPS skills. It would make the most sense if Red Mage became a healer. That way it can use both black and white magic.
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    Last edited by Wolf_Heartnet; 12-17-2016 at 12:51 PM.

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    Kyuuen Queles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inori-Yuzuriha View Post
    No. Commit sudoku please.
    I face palmed.. then giggled.

    OT

    No thanks. Would like to actually see a Two-handed sword wielding DPS class. To people claiming higher que times and using NIN as their example. I have mained NIN since it's release and have little memory of these extreme wait times you speak of.

    As to what else can be a tank. DRK in FF has never been a tank to memory, therefor other things could be a tank with a little imagination and reworking. RDM could juggle between spells enhancing Mag/Phy damage resists. DNC (Dancer) could be an avoidance type tank that avoids attacks through it's fluid like dancing. Geomancer can be reworked to cut damage through earth spells. Etc etc.
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  6. #56
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    Saltire Dalamiq
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    Stormblood doesn't need a new tank, or a new healer. 1:1:1 is false balance and it's unsustainable.

    In addition, we don't need Samurai to be the fourth Slashing Damage Tank, the third Two-Handed Weapon tank, and the third Sword Tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuen View Post
    DNC (Dancer) could be an avoidance type tank that avoids attacks through it's fluid like dancing.
    Dodge Tanking is inherently terrible design, don't even start.
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  7. #57
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Paladin Lv 60
    1) As long as it's not that dumb "armored shogun" stereotype, I don't really care what role it is (probably DPS).

    2) Who said we're getting three jobs? Because a) there's been no official statement saying that there would be three jobs, b) the "we're lacking tanks" argument is easily countered by the "there are enough tank players" argument, c) if I was a game developer wanting to test new combat mechanic systems (like what we're getting in Stormblood), it would make more sense to me to use non-critical roles (i.e. melee and ranged DPS) for new jobs to test those waters and THEN make new jobs for critical roles (tanks and healers) once the results of testing those combat mechanics systems came in and have been suitably balanced out, and d)



    I'm not seeing three silhouettes there. Maybe it could be just a placeholder, or maybe devs are placing quality over quantity, who knows....
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    I'm not seeing three silhouettes there. Maybe it could be just a placeholder, or maybe devs are placing quality over quantity, who knows....
    The silhouettes are a male Midlander Hyur and female Highlander Hyur, from these renders.

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  9. #59
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    Lufir Lumini
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    Whatever role it takes, everyone is going to make their Samurai modeled after some stupid anime that has created this new standard of being completely over the top and unoriginal. Just watch lol, there will be so many glamours with Lord's/Lady's Yukata sporting the bare legs and Katana.
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  10. #60
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    Make it fair, make SAM a healer! All problems solved an no one is happy \o/
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