@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

[Madepossible]

@Galaktica, Rurouni Kenshin is like a tank and I will tell you why: his blade does damage, but it's not deadly like a tank! His sword is basically not sharp lol And while he may have light armor gear, I think samurai may become a Dodge tank.

[Remus]

... I think samurai may become a Dodge tank.

Soon as I saw this your argument just went out the window. You should NEVER EVER do a dodge tank. They never work. You can't have a tank that relies on dodging because then it comes down to pure RNG and if you have bad RNG you just keep taking large amounts of hits compared to the other tanks which are not RNG and comes down to how you use your cooldowns. SAM would never get picked for groups for being so RNG based.

[ReplicaX]

@Galaktica, Rurouni Kenshin is like a tank and I will tell you why: his blade does damage, but it's not deadly like a tank! His sword is basically not sharp lol And while he may have light armor gear, I think samurai may become a Dodge tank.

So based from your description of Rurouni Kenshin, a spinoff clone of Kenpachi (bleach)? Which will just confirm Sam and still too vague to hint a role assignment.

Meh, dodge tank... Just stick with a parry/counter tank preference. Many have explained why with valid points.

[StarRosie]

AST is not a original job, it is more or less just the time mage with an other name and slight different mechanics according to his role and the game design in ffxiv, like DRK gets altered to fit in his role.

Not quite, AST gets it's name and LB3 from Astrologer in FF Tactics. It borrows some of the time elements from Time mage and AST's core gimmick, the cards, come straight from Gambler. After that its just a mixing of WHM and SCH to sorta create this giant melting pot of a Job know simply as AST.

Like...Mitsurugi from Soul Calibur

I don't know if Mitsurugi is the best choice for a tank SAM T-shirt reveal. Mitsu has been slowly ditching his armor over the games, hell SC 5, he isn't even wearing armor! He's become this weird Samurai monk thing.

his blade does damage, but it's not deadly like a tank! His sword is basically not sharp lol

This is because his sword has a reversed edge o3o What would normally be the cutting edge is actually blunt and the backside is the sharp edge. Kenshin doesn't do much damage or cut people cause he doesn't want to kill people anymore, cause remember...HE WAS A HITOKIRI! and he hates himself for that. So, no. Kenshin is a TERRIBLE choice for a t-shirt tease if they were gonna do tank SAM.

If SAM is coming, this petition is null and void because the devs have already decided long ago and have already mostly developed it.

Anyways, Lambdafish brings up a solid point, if they are doing SAM for this expansion. It's probably too late to change anything, so we shall have to wait until tomorrow or EU fanfest and see.

[Katana190]

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I don't think the t-shirt has ever represented the jobs role, it's also usually vague so I doubt it will be a character with too much of a samurai aesthetic (I really cant think of a vague way to announce SAM though). But I might be wrong, we'll see tomorrow! Might not even be SAM! DX.

I also think its fun to discuss though, even if the OP was asking for it to be a tank, I think the point of the OP was more to just express his/her opinion, I'm sure they know it cant be changed suddenly because of 1 request on the forums. I'm sure the debating will heat up tomorrow night too when RDM is announced its role!

[StarRosie]

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I get that, I agree. Though the T-Shirt reveals are not...that vague (Save for the 007 shirt. That was waaaaay out there Yoshi.) I mean...Batman for DRK? That's a little on the nose.

I also get the fun in discussion about things like this but...maaaaan, this thread got heated at times and I will own up that I was a part of that. Also lets hope the T-Shirts don't follow an order, cause Batman was first and gave us tank DRK. So with Scarlet Witch being first...oh the RDM fans would throw such a fit.

[Katana190]

I get that, I agree. Though the T-Shirt reveals are not...that vague (Save for the 007 shirt. That was waaaaay out there Yoshi.) I mean...Batman for DRK? That's a little on the nose.

I also get the fun in discussion about things like this but...maaaaan, this thread got heated at times and I will own up that I was a part of that. Also lets hope the T-Shirts don't follow an order, cause Batman was first and gave us tank DRK. So with Scarlet Witch being first...oh the RDM fans would throw such a fit.

Your right, vague isn't really the right word... Idk how to put it, it's not OUT there but it is easy to figure out. Like you said. There must be a word for it! Also debates get heated, it's good to see you can admit that so that's respectable.

Hell, about the t-shirt, maybe he'll change it up and do something else for a teaser!?

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You know, I think they might actually do a Shogun/Samurai route. But not in the same expansion, I'm probably dreaming but I think SAM Tank will be Shogun and SAM DPS will be Samurai. Different gameplay, different weapons, but giving that same aesthetic of a Japanese Warrior which people seem to want so much.

[Lambdafish]

Anyways, Lambdafish brings up a solid point, if they are doing SAM for this expansion. It's probably too late to change anything, so we shall have to wait until tomorrow or EU fanfest and see.

Far more likely EU because... WE GET TO SEE RED MAGE THIS WEEKEND!!!! *hype*

[Souru]

Dodge/counter tank, where standard mitigation CDs still exist, but an arsenal of skills and abilities that proc off of dodge and parry. Abilities that guarantee parry/dodge/etc for a certain duration. Abilities that mitigates off of parry/dodge chance. (ie, 75-95% dodge chance = 30% mitigation, example only, numbers needs work for balance)

Thematically, you're dodging or "parrying" but just avoid the brunt of the blow but still took a small hit. The major differences and uniqueness of dodge/parry/counter tank would be the arsenal of abilities and skills that are reactionary triggers requiring player skills in focus and key press.

[Lambdafish]

If SAM is coming, this petition is null and void because the devs have already decided long ago and have already mostly developed it. Just wait until EU fanfest and enjoy the ride, because nothing in this thread will change anything.

I would be happy with SAM being anything, but what I think is irrelevant at this point because the content has already passed the point of no return.