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    Player
    StarRosie's Avatar
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    Sakya Malha
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Walfan View Post
    2% increase is huge. Not only did the tank population not decrease, it increased.
    Did you really expect something like a 10% increase because of DRK ? And if it's "only" 2% percent, even with DRK's popularity, what do you think would have happened without it ?

    The goal isn't to totally replace the dps population and a 40% tank population isn't going to happen, nor should it.
    If SAM adds two more %, then we would be seeing a steady and healthy increase, far from a dud.
    While indeed the 2% increase is huge and a massive success, I do not see any further breakdowns of the 2% statistic. This leaves me a little skeptical about things because we also don't entirely know how the census data is gathered, is it by an active time algorithm or by some other means? Is that 2% only counting NEW tanks or is it counting tanks who took a year off during the last census to play DPS or healer and then returned to playing tanks this year? That is the kind of data we're missing to have a concrete "DRK increased tank population." argument.

    While indeed I am sure DRK did to a point, the data does not support this as a solid fact. It sure as heck lays credence to it but without a detailed breakdown of how much of that 2% is entirely new tanks, how much of the 2% went to DRK and data like that, I am sorry, I don't see this as definitive proof that DRK increased tank pop, I'm not saying it didn't, because the data shows it did to a degree and I'll concede that point, But I am saying that I don't think the entirety of that 2% is thanks to DRK. The data just doesn't support that argument.
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    Shippuu Nammuu
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    There aren't conclusive numbers to suggest that introducing Dark Knight as a tank made any significant increase in the number of total tank players.
    Doesn't matter, still not an excuse to not introduce new tank jobs. Adding new tank jobs offer multiple benefits even if it doesn't increase the tank population, whereas not adding new ones has nothing but negative effects.
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    Technically the least played jobs in the game are Machinist (4%) and Summoner (6%). Guess that means no new dps jobs until they make them more appealing right? I mean that's your logic.
    I have been curoius for a while how Machinists been holding up since the adjustments. I know so far the MCH population consist of mostly players that actually like the gameplay, are more adjusted to it, or "REASONS" but it has been a while since the last Job population information has been released.
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    Rizon Cerberus
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
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    I was talking about classes and you bring up jobs, apples and oranges. I agree that there are more then enough DPS jobs to satisfy most tastes. For those who say that certain jobs can be either Melee or Tank answer me this, When I say Warrior do you think Tank or DPS when constructing parties?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    I was talking about classes and you bring up jobs, apples and oranges. I agree that there are more then enough DPS jobs to satisfy most tastes. For those who say that certain jobs can be either Melee or Tank answer me this, When I say Warrior do you think Tank or DPS when constructing parties?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    Why do people want to foist SAM on us as a Tank when there is not enough players playing Tanks already. Make the current Tank jobs more appealing before saturating the populace with unnecessary job classes.
    Yeah, no, you said jobs multiple times there buddy. And jobs/classes are not apples and oranges, they're actually almost identically the same in this game, and considering new jobs have no base classes what is even the point of talking specifically about classes? Unless you're using the term classes in a completely different manner in which you should probably construct your statements to be clearer. The second half of you comment makes zero sense.
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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    I was talking about classes and you bring up jobs, apples and oranges. I agree that there are more then enough DPS jobs to satisfy most tastes. For those who say that certain jobs can be either Melee or Tank answer me this, When I say Warrior do you think Tank or DPS when constructing parties?
    I think tank? What's your point? Parroting the worthless 'WAR is a DPS' meme?

    Anyone worth their salt would not waste a DPS slot for WAR, nor would they not give WAR the tank slot.
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    There's a lot of people who have tanks at max level, they just don't necessarily play their tanks in duty finder. A new tank job is fresh incentive to take that new job into duty finder again.
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    Arome Framboise
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    Moogle
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/74737724


    So probably SAM as tank and RDM as melee dps
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    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Arome Framboise
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    Moogle
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    Hope its true, especially for the fox mount \o/ Kurama here i am !
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    Rex Inferorum
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Hope its true, especially for the fox mount \o/ Kurama here i am !

    Imagine riding into battle on this thing.

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    Last edited by FinalWolf; 12-22-2016 at 04:14 AM.

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