@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

[Alacran]

Dps classes need a SWORD DPS, so what we have atm ? I just see the SAM so i think SAM will be dps.

And for tank role, i think it will be the red mage, cause we dont have a caster tank, even if the pld have clemency which i never use (im on a12s farm) :3

Why does RDM not fill the role of sword DPS?

[CaedemSanguis]

How does a magical tank stand out more? 2 of the 3 tanks we have are magic users. Paladin had numerous magical abilities including ones with actual cast bars even And half of Dark Knights abilities are magical themed in nature and appearance, on top of their major mechanic being managing an MP pool far more than any magic caster has to in the game.

To say a magic themed tank would be a breath of fresh air is just blatantly false.

I dont see ability which need to be cast, i dont see magical weapon (like smn book or ast weapon), i see only heavy armor, on any tank, i conclude that there is no magical tank

[Kyonika]

idk about Samurai being a Tank class.

Even though, during the warring-states period in feudal Japan, armored Samurai on the battlefield were a prevalent thing. And, to the best of my knowledge there really is only one Kenjutsu school that teaches techniques assuming armor-wearing and possible long drawn out battles: one of the oldest -- Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu. However, later on, like close to and around the Edo era, a lot of Kenjutsu schools started popping up, and most taught without armor. Assuming either wearing or not wearing armor (incl. kabuto) while attacking or defending against armored or unarmored opponents alike. And these newer styles preferred one or two step "kumite" drills. A lot quicker (but more numerous array of "kajo") than KSR works through. Two well known examples are Ona-Ha Itto Ryu, and Yagyu Shinkage Ryu. The former is the basis of the sport known as Kendo, btw. And if you ever saw Kendo matches, you know that matches go very quick: who ever gets the clean hit in first (eg. Kote, Men, Do, etc.) wins.

So, as seeing that it's a race to see who is the first to get a shot in is the winner/survivor, and taking in the total body of knowledge (history, kenjutsu schools, kodachi jutsu, tachi iai, and batto jutsu), it makes a lot more sense that Samurai would be a DPS class.

[AlphaFox]

Honestly, if everyone got their way we would have nothing but DPS for the majority it seems. I mean RDM or SAM, I wouldn't argue whichever one gets the Tank or DPS slot, but in the end we will have someone mad and raging on the forum about the final choice.

[Slirith]

I don't think Yoshida and the rest of the FFXIV team are stupid enough to make the same mistake again(Turning a dps job into a tank)

[CaedemSanguis]

I dont think SE will implemented a second two handed sword tank, we already have drk. So the only problem is how a red mage can be a tank ?

I personnaly think its possible to make a spellcasting tank with lightweight armor

[Shippuu]

I dont think SE will implemented a second two handed sword tank, we already have drk. So the only problem is how a red mage can be a tank ?

I personnaly think its possible to make a spellcasting tank with lightweight armor

Man, we don't need another 2 handed sword tank? I know what will fix it! Another 1 handed sword tank!!!1 That's so much better!

Your lack of self awareness is staggering.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Man, we don't need another 2 handed sword tank? I know what will fix it! An offensive magic and 1 handed sword using tank!!!1 That's so much better!

Your lack of self awareness is staggering.

Fixed for ya.

Skills PLD can use that has casts:
Clemency, Cure, Raise, Protect, and Stone Skin.

Additionally, why would they make the tank have damage dealing casts when interruption is infact a thing?

The fact of the matter is that none of the above are used regularly or commonly. The one that's most frequently used is Clemency for a quick spot heal and stoneskin when there's literally nothing else. You could make a case for protect being rarely used to rebuff someone that just died, but none of the above are frequently used during normal play. SS is rarely ever used once they get access to Divine Veil, and no competent pld uses Cure or Raise(except in PotD)), which only leaves Flash. DRK has more spells.

[GMERC]

no competent pld uses Cure or Raise(except in PotD)).

Cure can be used to proc your own Divine Veil faster than Clemency and for less MP. Fixing Raise is as simple as letting it be used in combat. No, it wouldn't be easy to execute (no Swiftcast), especially not while main tanking, but that's all the more reason for it to be usable at all, isn't it?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Cure can be used to proc your own Divine Veil faster than Clemency and for less MP. Fixing Raise is as simple as letting it be used in combat. No, it wouldn't be easy to execute (no Swiftcast), especially not while main tanking, but that's all the more reason for it to be usable at all, isn't it?

Cure's not any faster than Clemency, considering both can be cast at 2 seconds each, and MP can only possibly become an issue with frequent stance swapping. Raise being usable would be nice, but that's still support magic, and has nothing to do with damage dealing.

Sorry, forgot they shortened the cast time on Clemency. It really used to be 3 seconds.

Not to worry, everyone slips up sometimes~ I'm a PLD/DRK main since 3.0, hence my desires for a more spell focused tank.