@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

[Anzaman]

No one can actually answer this with any credibility except for SE themselves because they'd actually have the metrics.

Maybe so, but looking at previous years role-% charts, I'm only seeing amount of tanks shrinking.

[Madepossible]

I saw a quote from someone just now:

Yoshi-P has said in the past that when deciding on the tank role for Heavensward, they were torn between making it a Dark Knight or a Samurai. They eventually opted to make it the Dark Knight for Heavensward.

Video from PAX East 2015 speaking to tank role design decision.

This doesn't mean they will be releasing Samurai in the future and this also doesn't mean if they do release Samurai it'll be a tank role, but it was considered to be a tank role at one point in time when deciding the jobs for Heavensward.

yes please o.o/

[StarRosie]

I saw a quote from someone just now: yes please o.o/

Yes but then you have other interviews after the release of Heavensward, where he was asked about that and he says he was split and personally he would want SAM as a DPS. So...it really is a coin toss at this point.

[Madepossible]

Maybe so, but looking at previous years role-% charts, I'm only seeing amount of tanks shrinking.

Sjeez I wonder why that is.. it's a god damn Tankless job and we are "just a meat shield and be quiet", how many times have I heard idiots in DF may it be healers or DPS say it? It hurts in a way not sure why the reduction of tanks, hell why we want new options in the tanking tier list.

I think there is one fight in the whole game where the Tank LB is mandatory. Could be wrong.
Yes but then you have other interviews after the release of Heavensward, where he was asked about that and he says he was split and personally he would want SAM as a DPS. So...it really is a coin toss at this point.

From the top of my head, T13 tank LB was needed after killing twin and adds and the second one is in A12s and NM mode.
For once I agree with you there: it's 50/50 but I definitely hope Sam being a tank.

[StarRosie]

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First off, I apologize if you get told to be a meat shield and be quiet, that's just rude and dickish from people. I hope you haven't been taking my points as that kind of tone,cause that is the futherest thing from what I am expressing. I want new tank jobs too cause its turning into quite the PLD convention. Though, still I don't agree with SAM being that but...opinions.

Also, I believe you only need the tank LB on T13 if you are rolling synced and even then with how overgeared people are now they may squeak by just fine for a healer LB3 to fix the problem. I hear A12S needs the tank LB and that may have been what I was thinking of. Anyways, goin' off topic again I think. So...I'll shut up for now.

[Madepossible]

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No it's not you who should be apologizing, it's the toxic players of the community. Second I never took your posts to that level, your perspective just differs from mine when it comes to this subject! :3
Oh well last time I did t13 was with weekly lockouts so mmm been a looong time tanking that one! Still remember the Akh Mourns, best raids of FFXIV imo: Binding coil when it was with loot lockouts. The countless of strategies people had for t1 and twintania and the whole anti warrior (lol). Waiting for an actual good lore plus challenging raid, until then: casual \^o^/

[Alacran]

I would love for samurai to be a Tank in FFXIV, the job storyline/ quest fairly write themselves.

Many people keep thinking Yoshi will use the Last Samurai as a basis to tease the job, i'm hoping he'll go a bit old school.


Say what you will but that would be an epic way to end the Samurai job quest as a Tank.

[Galaktica]

Geez, give the development team some credit lol. This isn't exactly some small detail that they just somehow overlooked. When designing something as massive and integral to the game as a whole, such as a brand new job, I can say with the utmost certainty that there was a lot of back and forth between members of the team and they made what they felt was the right decision for the job.

Whatever choice they made, they're not going to suddenly change it because of one thread. One thread where the opinions are split down the middle btw lol.

Also, serously? "It does or doesn't need to be [nisert role here] because it has a sword"?!!? That's the most asinine reasoning you can come up with. How about, you know, the actual mechanics? If the SAM plays fundamentally different than a DRK, then why shouldn't it be tank? It doesn't have to be a dps just because of it's weapon. Besides, a SAM sword and DRK sword are two very different things. It's probably safe to say that their stance (e.g. the way they stand during combat) will be pretty distinct too meaning you should still be able to pick them out a glance if you're worried about that for some reason.

I have no horse in this race btw. I'm simply saying some people would benefit by taking a step back and tackling this from a more objective point of view.

[Ragology]

I think this is one of those situations where the brancing class system could have been used in full effect resulting in both jobs being awesome choices like what happened with Summoner and Scholar.

In this case we'd have a tank class that branches out into either a tanking job (Samurai) or a lighter armored dps version (Ronin perhaps?)

In real life, Samurais are the fighters that have masters while Ronins were your traditional wandering swordsmen, so that'd explain why samurai could afford expensive thick armor while ronins had to settle for cheaper, lighter gear.

[Rahdah]

If SAM is DPS, who will be the tank of expansion ? I think SAM only can be tank.