Using 3rd party tools to call out Box Spawns / Enemy Buffs / DR considered cheating?

[TiramisuMacaron]

Stop turning every thread into, "millennials got participation trophies growing up so everything should be a partition trophy for the rest of my life!". This isn't a problem with the majority of the top 100, this thread was very specifically targeted towards someone who replied to it. Lance Armstrong won the tour de France by doping for years... Does that mean we should go back and reward all participants 1st place medals? No... It doesn't.. Just.. Stop...

[Enlial]

Lance Armstrong won the tour de France by doping for years... Does that mean we should go back and reward all participants 1st place medals?

This probably isnt the best example lol. He was stripped of his Tour de France titles, and the only reason they chose not to award them to anyone else was because doping was so prevalent at the time. But yeah. I'm inclined to agree that cheating probably isn't an issue with the vast majority of players, based on experience and lack of evidence otherwise.

Ironically, they tend to be the highest of the high on the Feast leader boards. =(

Honestly, it sounds like you're just fishing for excuses as to why you're not on the top 100. Like saying "I can't do better at (insert thing) because (insert external factor out of my control)". You're crossing a line, though, when you start making direct accusations, like this one, with absolutely no tangible evidence.

[Stormfur]

I'd say most of the people in the top 100 (at least on my data center) got there fair and square. There were some win traders but it looks like SE took care of them before the final tally. Maybe some slipped by, I'm not sure. But I saw many names I recognized as good PVP players. Not sure about other data centers.

[Culfinrandir]

I don't do ranked at all, so no fishing here. What I do a lot is watch Twitch streams & there's a lot of people who openly use tools to help them, they even discuss it "superspeed now", automatic voice calling "healer has limit break", watching them click on opposition players & getting all their stats (DPS, HPS, LB status, cooldowns) etc . There's also web forums explaining how to cheat. It's hardly rare. Keep telling yourselves that there's no cheats though... After all, the grapes are green anyway.

[TiramisuMacaron]

I don't do ranked at all, so no fishing here. What I do a lot is watch Twitch streams & there's a lot of people who openly use tools to help them, they even discuss it "superspeed now", automatic voice calling "healer has limit break", watching them click on opposition players & getting all their stats (DPS, HPS, LB status, cooldowns) etc . There's also web forums explaining how to cheat. It's hardly rare. Keep telling yourselves that there's no cheats though... After all, the grapes are green anyway.

No one is saying cheats don't exist. They are just not as rampant as you lay claim. A potato with speed hack is just a fast potato. You make it seem like 99% of the top 100 cheats, which is not the case.

[Enlial]

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If that were true, by now someone would have made a recording and posted it on youtube so we could all laugh at the cheaters.

[Culfinrandir]

If that were true, by now someone would have made a recording and posted it on youtube so we could all laugh at the cheaters.

There's been quite a few posted elsewhere but as they contain names of players they can't be posted here.