Using 3rd party tools to call out Box Spawns / Enemy Buffs / DR considered cheating?

[Yukumazi]

I'm not trying to justify anything nor am I endorsing the use of third party tools. I simply find it hilarious how someone can think that actual hacking has "0 difference" from using callouts. Why do you think that I would use a theft vs piracy argument? Both are clearly distinct concepts while also being wholly illegal.

Parsing via network (packet) data and memory is a clear example of parsers infringing on the "law" but Yoship and the TOS both fail to mention anything about the ingame battle log which is why anyone who wants to convince themselves that gathering data from said log is acceptable will continue to do so.

One thing I would like to see is the inclusion of numerical HP values for players on the enemy team / enemy mobs. I would also advise anybody who does not like the use of callouts in pvp to turn of their HP overlays while pvping to avoid a possible advantage.

This is really funny coming from you.

Also please do not quote my post and add words that I have never said in it.

[FreeKingStefan]

I'm not trying to justify anything nor am I endorsing the use of third party tools. I simply find it hilarious how someone can think that actual hacking has "0 difference" from using callouts. Why do you think that I would use a theft vs piracy argument? Both are clearly distinct concepts while also being wholly illegal.

Your argument is weak because you are trying to make ACT use seem fine just because there is something "worse" (speed hacking). ACT callouts is cheating. Speedhacking is cheating. Anyone who uses either is a cheater. Bottom line.

And as others have said, this is amusing, as it's coming from the accused.

[natyusha]

I think you guys are confused. I have never made any posts on the forums advocating the use of third party tools. My previous two posts straight up compared parsers to illegal activities. I'm not even disputing the fact that you consider both things as cheating.

The only thing I am questioning is the line of reasoning that is being represented here. Someone could be drophacking to instantly win a match and you would consider that as having "0 difference" from triggers. If that is your belief so be it.

Also, try to avoid naming third party tools as some pillars of the pve community have been forum banned in the past for mentioning them.

please do not quote my post and add words that I have never said in it.

I didn't quote your post. This is a quote.

[FreeKingStefan]

I think you guys are confused. I have never made any posts on the forums advocating the use of third party tools. My previous two posts straight up compared parsers to illegal activities. I'm not even disputing the fact that you consider both things as cheating.

The only thing I am questioning is the line of reasoning that is being represented here. Someone could be drophacking to instantly win a match and you would consider that as having "0 difference" from triggers. If that is your belief so be it.

Also, try to avoid naming third party tools as some pillars of the pve community have been forum banned in the past for mentioning them.

Cheating is cheating dude.

[Aviars]

I'm not even disputing the fact that you consider both things as cheating.

The only thing I am questioning is the line of reasoning that is being represented here. Someone could be drophacking to instantly win a match and you would consider that as having "0 difference" from triggers. If that is your belief so be it.

I don't know why you are trying to make this argument in the first place. You can argue whether or not what you are doing is something small compared to something else but you are still admitting it is the same thing, aka cheating?

I don't think I have seen that many people try to argue that doing a 'small' cheat is ok since there are bigger cheats existing.

.-.

[natyusha]

From my point of view the Jedi are evil.

[Etrius]

Everyone using this kind of "tool" should be banned.

On a side note, i guess this is one of the reasons they're opting for chat "restrictions", i couldnt be more happy.

[TiramisuMacaron]

On a side note, i guess this is one of the reasons they're opting for chat "restrictions", i couldnt be more happy.

0 relation. wat?

[FreeKingStefan]

Everyone using this kind of "tool" should be banned.

On a side note, i guess this is one of the reasons they're opting for chat "restrictions", i couldnt be more happy.

If anything we might see MORE people using act due to chat restrictions...

[NargaHuntress]

the fact that people are actually debating this means pvp is fked mate.