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  1. #1
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    WeekendSoja's Avatar
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    Luku Asura
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Lol...DF is good for two things, roulette's and weeping city.

    If you are still using the DF for specific loot in the normal versions of Alex...you are going to run into this problem. Mitigating control...PF...

    Play smarter.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeGrace View Post
    Broken. Badly.
    Why is there ANY RNG involved in this? It should be simple: clear the dungeon, get your choice of one token and done. Instead, we get 4 drops for 8 people. Just a giant F U from SE.

    16 A9 runs since yesterday, and my best "roll" was a 34. It's crap like this that makes people rage quit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    This is just for normal mode though.
    In Savage, everyone gets a token AND loot on top of that.

    Solution: Do more savage. \o/


    Thank the stars you're able to run the content until you get a drop. EVENTUALLY, YOU WILL GET A DROP. As quickly as 1 token for an accessory, 2 tokens for jewely, 2 weeks for pants (4 tokens from a11/12) or 4 weeks for a shaft (4 tokens from a12.)

    Imagine your frustation if for a belt:
    6 weeks of clearing content if a belt does not drop (You get 1 Page=token every week you clear it,) You can step in again with someone who hasn't cleared this week, a belt drop and be UNABLE TO ROLL, even though you never got an actual drop this week.

    .....

    I'm still using a 250 hat/boots IN ABSOLUTE FEAR THAT ONE WILL DROP AND I WILL HAVE WASTED 1.5-3 GOBCOATS WORTH OF PAGES. (Currently at 10 pages. Need 4 pages per gobcoat, drops cost 6 each. Need 12 to get both.)

    So yeah. Be thankful you can keep going and going to get the drops you want on easy content.

    (#NerfSavageDropSystemPls2Stewpid)
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    Wolf Spyder
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Thank the stars you're able to run the content until you get a drop. EVENTUALLY, YOU WILL GET A DROP. As quickly as 1 token for an accessory, 2 tokens for jewely, 2 weeks for pants (4 tokens from a11/12) or 4 weeks for a shaft (4 tokens from a12.)

    Imagine your frustation if for a belt:
    6 weeks of clearing content if a belt does not drop (You get 1 Page=token every week you clear it,) You can step in again with someone who hasn't cleared this week, a belt drop and be UNABLE TO ROLL, even though you never got an actual drop this week.
    Doctor says to a patient who just became a paraplegic, "Well it could have been worse. You could have gotten cancer, or been set on fire that completely deformed you".
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jas710 View Post
    Doctor says to a patient who just became a paraplegic, "Well it could have been worse. You could have gotten cancer, or been set on fire that completely deformed you".
    The doctor says you'll need to take these 2 pills a day until your symptoms subside. Oh the other guy? Chemotherapy for 6 months.
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    Luku Asura
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    The salt on savage is real!...petty...

    Lol, so one is afraid of RNG because using their tokens to buy an upgrade which could drop in the subsequent weeks and go to someone else...as an upgrade? Ok.

    The other says RNG can drop gear that does not pertain to your groups current composition...but could be an upgrade for a side job...riiiiiight...

    If your clearing that's all there is to it, if it's an upgrade, just get it if it helps progression...I don't understand this randomophobia. I've seen a dark weapon which is being used, a smn book which is being used, WHM cane that's being used, and unused blm and 2 pld weapon drops...though they are fun upgrade for those who got them...people need more "grats" in their life lol
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeekendSoja View Post
    I don't understand this randomophobia.
    If you really have trouble understanding why people are not fond of the idea of their effort randomly being rewarded with something they care for or something they don't, please go to your workplace and ask your boss to roll a dice on whether you get paid your salary at the end of the month or something else you really couldn't care less about of equal value instead - for example, real estate stocks in a foreign country or a lifelong subscription to a magazine or something like that, depends on what is of equal value to your salary. Of course, without re-selling option.

    If, after a year, you still don't get why people don't like randomness in rewards, well...nothing to be said. To each their own. But I'm sure you aren't crazy enough to accept that sort of thing IRL. Nobody ever is - Because deep inside, people know better. They just don't like to show it for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    google Maslow's hierarchy of needs
    Lol, great comparison...because the two are totally relatable in both scale and impact.

    If your attributing the enjoyment of this game to what equates to necessities of sustainability, it's not me with the problem lmao. Got your priorities all kinds of jacked up lol.
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    I don't see the issue. Sure in Savage its annoying but even there is a fix time to get stuff. In normal its fine all tomes are capped and who cares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    I mean.... it's outdated gear. If you're spending that much time running a9 over and over again for one drop couldn't you, oh i dunno, spend an hour farming mats and getting a i250 piece crafted? Shire gear is 260. I ran through normal once.. maybe twice. Didn't need any i250 gear from there because it was outdated upon release
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    Alice Glastheim
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    I mean.... it's outdated gear. If you're spending that much time running a9 over and over again for one drop couldn't you, oh i dunno, spend an hour farming mats and getting a i250 piece crafted? Shire gear is 260. I ran through normal once.. maybe twice. Didn't need any i250 gear from there because it was outdated upon release
    depends of stats you want to stack i still use 240 lore until savages gives me something better
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