What will happen to the Gridanian story quest?

[Loggos]

This is what I have been wondering about.
The discussion about the conjurer and the thaumaturg is quite lively and to be honest I am rather upset because the conjurer loses his character as elemental spiritual.
I know, the patch is not out yet and I will see what it will be like.

But in case the conjurer stays like planned, what will happen to the Gridanian story quest?
I am afraid that the whole scenario will break down in its logic because Gridania is not the centre of white mages but of mages that stand in communication with the animus, hence all the elemental spirits.
They are the people that are connected with nature in all its aspects and all its elements (already again enhanced by the new articles on the lodestone about Kan-E-Senna).
Now if the conjurer changes and loses his character as nature mage or nature spiritual the Gridanian story and city concept will not really make sense anymore because everything is connected to these elemental spirituals.
Now that the elements might be splittet it doesn't make a lot sense to see the druid as elemental spiritual mage anymore.

I know, I know, it's not patch time yet. I don't mean to cause a drama thread but I'm a bit afraid that I might not only lose my favourite mage but also my favourite city concept and my scenario.

(Please be gentle, cease-fire, okay?)

[Rau]

No one knows.

[Loggos]

I would really like to ask Yoshida about this. :/

[Katella_Avenlea]

I'm wondering about this also, mostly because I love the premise of Gridania.

I'm thinking they may just redefine things a little bit and retain Conjurers as being able to commune with the most natural of elements.. Lets face it, Water, Wind, and Earth (for our purposes, unless you are a biochemist) is as natural as you get.

The other "elements" are sort of "created" in a way. Fire starts only when certain prerequisites are fulfilled (oxygen, flammable substance, spark), Lightning occurs only when certain weather conditions are present, Ice only occurs when the temperature gets cold enough to transform water. Still Elements maybe, but are brought to be through a manipulation, rather than using a pure elemental form.

[Loggos]

In my opinion these manipuations are all natural and happen in nature, like ice freezing in winter, lightnings in thunderstorms and fires bursting when lightnings strike into wood.
I think all this is nature and it is not unnatural for a nature mage to control it. That's just my opinion but since those three are still part of the elemental system I'd consider it a bit weird if druids are in touch with elements but somehow are not because they cannot influence all elements that influence the rest of the FFXIV world.
Like I said, just my personal view and it's theoretical regarding the new concepts.
Anyways, I'd be really sad if Gridania is not really Gridania anymore so I really wonder what will happen to it. :x

[Powercow]

Conjurers don't need to invoke the destructive power of an element to be able to hear from it. In the story, conjurers are all about communicating with the elements, not necessarily using them to blow things up.

Also, it's quite possible that Jobs will not necessarily be tied to the same cities as their base classes, and in many cases it would actually make more sense if they were not.

[Skies]

This is what I have been wondering about.
The discussion about the conjurer and the thaumaturg is quite lively and to be honest I am rather upset because the conjurer loses his character as elemental spiritual.
I know, the patch is not out yet and I will see what it will be like.

But in case the conjurer stays like planned, what will happen to the Gridanian story quest?
I am afraid that the whole scenario will break down in its logic because Gridania is not the centre of white mages but of mages that stand in communication with the animus, hence all the elemental spirits.
They are the people that are connected with nature in all its aspects and all its elements (already again enhanced by the new articles on the lodestone about Kan-E-Senna).
Now if the conjurer changes and loses his character as nature mage or nature spiritual the Gridanian story and city concept will not really make sense anymore because everything is connected to these elemental spirituals.
Now that the elements might be splittet it doesn't make a lot sense to see the druid as elemental spiritual mage anymore.

I know, I know, it's not patch time yet. I don't mean to cause a drama thread but I'm a bit afraid that I might not only lose my favourite mage but also my favourite city concept and my scenario.

(Please be gentle, cease-fire, okay?)

Well, just always bear to mind that the world is going to end and start all over again when 2.0 comes about. Who's to say that the laws of the world won't change with it?

[Loggos]

I agree with you about the jobs. It is probably better if jobs are not tied to cities but even so conjurers are changed in ther basic concept anyways.

For the context of the story I'd consider it a bit strange if they were mages that could hear the animus but not use its powers.
To me it would rather be like "they are healers and additionally can hear the spirits" but "they are mages focused on a balance with nature".
They were elemental mages first and are healers now (Yoshida stated that conjurers are the typical healer class from now on). In my opinion this doesn't match with being an animus prophet or something because they are in touch with all of the sources of nature and not just some of them. It's like a giving and taking - they hear the animus and may use its powers (which is not necessarily blowing up everything - they can use it to fight but use it for the sake of balance in the first place and not aggression).

Sorry, I guess I'm going to far again but I really love FFXIV for the Gridanian story part. It was what kept me playing. :x

[Loggos]

Skies was faster than me.

This...would make me sad. Taking the whole story away or changing it drastically would be like playing a new game.
I like FFXIV a lot for the story and hoped that this were the basic line to stay and that improvements were made in the technical areas. But to change everything would be like throwing the current FFXIV away and making a new one.
I hope this will not happen with 2.0.

[Skies]

Well, no, not a definite trashcan for the story, but we're going into a post-cataclysmic setting. That means they're likely going to get a fair bit more of writing liberties to go with the system changes. Still, I'm not that much into the Gridanian history, I mean- I started playing recently and started in Ul'Dah, so I don't know much about Conjurers.
However, guys who commune with the spirits of the land really have a more healer feel than blaster feel. Just think of it this way: Instead of using their elemental magic for direct attack, they use it as support.