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  1. #21
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    i think nobody questioned the use of mantra in raids. ^^
    When are we questioning it then?

    Ex primals are mechanic dependant on its uses (which is fine, not all skills need to be used in all fights, as a PLD I can definately attest to that), Nidhoggs Ahk Morn is a good time to use it though; and as for dungeons, i've been beginning to notice that physik on my SCH is an unnecessary skill, let alone mantra
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    When are we questioning it then?

    Ex primals are mechanic dependant on its uses (which is fine, not all skills need to be used in all fights, as a PLD I can definately attest to that), Nidhoggs Ahk Morn is a good time to use it though; and as for dungeons, i've been beginning to notice that physik on my SCH is an unnecessary skill, let alone mantra

    Well regarding to OPs question it doesn't seem that he have been in raiding yet ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
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    What exactly is the point of mantra? It's range, CD, and duration is all so limited you can barely plan around it unless you use it as a prepull buff or before a bosses ultimate.

    It feels like a rather forgotten tool to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    I do too!
    But the way this game plays, it comes off as useless. Of course, when raids deal a lot more damage it'll be better, but right now it's just "more damage more damage!".
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  3. #23
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Honestly, I really don't understand why people be bashing defensive cd's like Mantra lately. A big part of why MCH is one of my mains is because of Dis/RM. I love the fact that I can assist in ways other than just with WF burst + Hyper charge. I'd actually like for defensive assist cd's to become more prominent and useful!
    Because i don't need it in potd it's cluttering up my bar! Why did they gib me dis?!
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  4. #24
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    DestroyerOfLargePlanets's Avatar
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    Squiddly Giggly
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    It just feels like extremely situational utility like this is the reason Monk is so currently looked down on.
    IMO monk is looked down upon because although it offers raid utility in the form of increased raid survivability, MNK offers no raid utility that increases raid dps. In this game, once your group meets the minimum survivability requirements (which is pretty easy if everyone does mechanics properly), the only thing left is increasing dps output. As a result, MNKs value to a group decreases as the group's skill level increases because skilled players can do mechanics properly which in itself = increased raid survivability. If a group can survive without a monk, then bringing a monk into the group instead of a mch, nin, drg, etc would be a dps loss.
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    That's not to say that Enhanced Mantra (+20% healing) isn't amazing though. 20% is a hefty chunk!
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  6. #26
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    Chris Von'greven
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    They said they are re-evaluating skill that are not used much. Mantra could fall in that scenario too but still it is used so maybe they'll just make it more effective and/or add something MNKs miss like an enmity dumping. Just an idea
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