First time playing Astrologian... need some advice/tips

[Cleftobismal]

Yes, imo anyway, seems everyone disagrees. Pre-pull I'll always set up an aoe balance. Obv thru the fight you have to work more with what you get.

Actually rather surprised people are advocating an aoe bole on pull, I genuinely don't know of any fights where the outgoing damage so early in the fight justifies bole.

Because of RNG, it's best to utilize the best combos you can do.

Royal Road Balanced/Bole Cards used with time dilation and/or Celestial opposition

Royal Road Arrow/Spear cards when time dilation and/or celestial opposition is on CD

Royal Road Spire/Ewer cards if you don't have an "Ace" in the party.

Otherwise if you just try to stick to balance you're creating a lot of downtime on the buffs for your party when you could use the cards you skipped for your party while you're still waiting for a balance.

Sometimes I draw a lot of balances, sometimes I don't draw any until I reach the boss. Surrender to the RNG ~ Don't fight against it.

[randysquirrel]

Because of RNG, it's best to utilize the best combos you can do.

Royal Road Balanced/Bole Cards used with time dilation and/or Celestial opposition

Royal Road Arrow/Spear cards when time dilation and/or celestial opposition is on CD

Royal Road Spire/Ewer cards if you don't have an "Ace" in the party.

Otherwise if you just try to stick to balance you're creating a lot of downtime on the buffs for your party when you could use the cards you skipped for your party while you're still waiting for a balance.

Sometimes I draw a lot of balances, sometimes I don't draw any until I reach the boss. Surrender to the RNG ~ Don't fight against it.

Guess we have to agree to disagree. Every floor of raid our ast always has aoe balance and uses it a few seconds before the pull. Not really sure what you mean about downtime, how can there be any downtime setting this up before the fight has even started

[Spiroglyph]

im a bad ast
is that going to stop me from giving advice? no

1) give time dilated enhaced arrow to your nearest ninja or monk and laugh while they bleed tp out their every pore
2) lightspeed gravity
3) noct stance ALL THE TIME. OH, YOU'RE A SCHOLAR? WELL THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM NOW IS IT

[Mikaeus_The_Lunarch]

2) lightspeed gravity

not gonna lie.....i actually do it pretty regularly. only with CS on of course, but....yeah

[Spiroglyph]

not gonna lie.....i actually do it pretty regularly. only with CS on of course, but....yeah

dishonor on your cow

[Cleftobismal]

Not sure if joking or if chastising :> But light speed gravity spams does more damage than a normal cast time gravity despite the damage penalty. Even still your mana doesn't go as oom giving you more resources to do both hps/dps. z_z . . . . . (Assuming yall are talking about an aoe setting)

[Spiroglyph]

Not sure if joking or if chastising :> But light speed gravity spams does more damage than a normal cast time gravity despite the damage penalty. Even still your mana doesn't go as oom giving you more resources to do both hps/dps. z_z . . . . . (Assuming yall are talking about an aoe setting)

ok well, dishonor on my cow then

i will remember this thread next time i DF as ast

[Mikaeus_The_Lunarch]

Not sure if joking or if chastising :> But light speed gravity spams does more damage than a normal cast time gravity despite the damage penalty. Even still your mana doesn't go as oom giving you more resources to do both hps/dps. z_z . . . . . (Assuming yall are talking about an aoe setting)

that was my reasoning behind it too, guess im not that insane after all.

[Ghishlain]

Lightspeed + Gravity is actually a DPS loss of about 6.25%

[Cleftobismal]

Lightspeed + Gravity is actually a DPS loss of about 6.25%

And normal Gravity spam is a 100% mana lost. No lie. You're better off using light speed gravity for any aoe situations. Especially if you could only contribute two gravities instead of 4-6. Most parties I'm in, the trash mobs die much faster than If I were to not use light speed.

Also could you go into greater detail what variables got you to 6.25%? Are you talking about spamming gravity on a single target? Spamming gravity on trash mobs? If so how long does it take you to eventually eradicate them? Or is this a calculation off of a dummy which doesn't die? Are we also comparing the damage done in 10 seconds with light speed then without? What about after the fact? Will you have enough mana to continue to use gravity? Or will the extra mana you have from the discounted mp cost of Gravity will be enough to out dps it? At any rate, the point of using light speed is not the damage in the long run, but the speed of the immediate damage which will destroy the trash mobs anyways before light speed is off.


Let's also factor in the pro's of being able to immediately heal + regen/shield your party then switch right back to dpsing. Versus without light speed you are creating downtime. It's the same concept of using Presence of the mind for holy spams. You're not using it to increase the dps in the long run, (As your mana will horribly run out) You're using it to quickly take out the mobs in the short term.