First time playing Astrologian... need some advice/tips

[technole]

Postnerf Holy is pretty trash in my opinion. I'll still take AST over WHM any day for any content though. I've never seen anyone complain about AST in 50 dungeons either until this thread.

More like AST is a snoozefest until you get Gravity at 52. So sync'd content WHM>>>>>AST. With Holy the stun means less tank damage. AST stun with CO you should align it with Aether/cards.

[basketofseals]

Postnerf Holy is pretty trash in my opinion. I'll still take AST over WHM any day for any content though. I've never seen anyone complain about AST in 50 dungeons either until this thread.

It's not a matter of opinion, it's pure numbers. In order for balance to out do holy, you'd need to balance someone putting out 10,000 potency per GCD, which is just not possible in a dungeon setting.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Side note for you: Don't take AST in Level 50 Roulette, you and your team will hate the job for its inability to contribute to AoE damage until level 52. White Mage is the best option there.

It's not that bad really. AST offers huge DPS increase in the form of cards anyway, so while it's not as noticeable, it's pretty much covering for it's missing aoe.

Also SCH would be the best for a lv 50 dungeon, but that's a different discussion.

[Rennies]

It's not that bad really. AST offers huge DPS increase in the form of cards anyway, so while it's not as noticeable, it's pretty much covering for it's missing aoe.

Also SCH would be the best for a lv 50 dungeon, but that's a different discussion.

You're not guaranteed any Balances or Arrows. Holy spam is guaranteed, and I'm certain that it does more than a Balance card would in AoE.

May not be perfect, but pretty sure we can cross class Blizzard 2.

50 Potency vs 200-100 Potency, alongside the complete lack of any relevant CC.

[Sebazy]

A few little tips and tricks I've picked up:

There's more to life than chasing Balance cards! Got a big multi mob pull coming up and you've just pulled a Bole? Consider throwing it on the tank to allow yourself a few more Gravity casts. Getting constant spears? Whilst it's the black sheep of cards, it's a dps gain for bards and worth throwing their way if you're at a loss. BLMs and Warriors still appreciate Arrow cards it seems. (Not so sure about arrow on Mnk/Nin tho, my static melees would be out of TP too quick).

If you're not parsing, but want to get the most out of your balances, take a note of your party DPS' HP totals and watch their hate generation vs each other, it's a quick way to figure out who's got the most gear and is doing the most DPS and thus who will get the biggest benefit from a Balance.

On the subject of cards, if you are in the habit of queuing cleric stance (to safely drop it without the risk of accidentally reapplying it) after an cast, be a little cautious if you draw a card at the same time, that can sometimes cancel the cleric stance queue if you are far ahead enough with rather obvious consequences.

Don't forget about collective unconsciousness! It's totally free, has a damage reduction element to it and is very strong even if you are only getting the tank offering up more potency than even Aspected Benefic in Diurnal.

Celestial Opposition is oddly versatile and if you have your timing down, can be far more powerful than it's tooltip might suggest. Line things up well and you can extend not only a balance card, but your own Lumi Aether (shroud) by ~35%, regens on the tank and stun a mob pack allowing for a couple more gravity casts. Another good example would be a raid pull timer dropping just before my Draw recast is up, I aoe my saved balance only to pull another almost right after, popping CO not only extends the balance that's up, but also preserves the second balance card long enough for my Spread to be ready before it goes to waste.

If you intend to seriously raid on AST down the line, practice is key, being able to subconsciously juggle your cards is fundamental to performing on point when it comes to mechanics and healing.

Hope these help! <3

[gumas]

a few cents from me

- AB can act as your quick heal for any target who are not getting continues damage, DPS at 70% hp? just heal and forget with AB

- no need to save Synastry, if you really need the 20% healing boost, use it.

- use Time dilation to maximize your buff

- if you are unsure to use bole as single or aoe effect, look at your party, are both dps doing great? is your tank warrior? then aoe it is. dps is meh but your tank is awesome warrior? single bole to him that is, and so on.

- learn swiftcast, this skill will save you a lot. and protect spell too.

what i like from AST is that they probably the only healer that can give your party (the player) a morale boost of sort, whenever i give a bole to DPS, they somehow start doing their full rotation lol

just for fun, AH (diurnal) + Bole (aoe) + card (spread) + TD (your choice) + CO + CU (not necessary) at the start of boss fight will usually get your party hype for "lets do this shit" moment

[randysquirrel]

a few cents from me

whenever i give a bole to DPS, they somehow start doing their full rotation lol

just for fun, AH (diurnal) + Bole (aoe) + card (spread) + TD (your choice) + CO + CU (not necessary) at the start of boss fight will usually get your party hype for "lets do this shit" moment

Get the party hyped for a vote kick on you more like.
What are you actually talking about, aoe bole at the start of a fight, bole on a dps, these are probably the dumbest things an ast could do

[ChiiSoSeriouz]

Get the party hyped for a vote kick on you more like.

I lol'd so hard! I would really be hype for that.

[Mikaeus_The_Lunarch]

these are probably the dumbest things an ast could do

aoe ewer/spire is by far the dumbest thing

[Rennies]

aoe ewer/spire is by far the dumbest thing

^^ This. AoE bole is a much better version of Sacred Soil, AoE Spire/Ewer is a ghetto Bard song.