To Yoshida-san - Poor Excuse for Continuing Horrible Time Sink Loot System from Ifrit

[Answa]

Okay after rereading it it seems like the item you can exchange for a weapon will automatically go into the loot pool, but weapons will go into your individual pool.

As for cynical, more liked pissed off after killing this SoB so many times and still getting shafted on the 2 weapons I actually want. Once you go for 0/70 on either one of them, you get to the point where you don't care anymore.

And speaking of the exchangable item, why not just go with that instead of this random weapon crap? That way at least you get a sense of progress than blind luck for items.

I hear you, man. I've gotten 3 weapons: Battleaxe, bow, and harpoon. Levels 0, 9, and 16, respectively. Oh, and I've gotten the axe twice. But it is as it is.

For your last question, look at the next quote/response.

then you didn't read it much. they stated the current system will stay in place with all future primals except they will be adding /random and the tokens. you can pass the tokens to someone else, but the weapon will still go directly to your inventory.

First off, I love Reinhart. But you can't completely base any bitching on one of his translations. The way I read it is that the drop rate stays the same while the item you get is that special item you can trade with people.

[Airget]

While that aspect may suck, at least they appear to be implimenting a concept that will allow you to fight Ifrit x amount of times to guarantee you a weapon of your choice. So if you are down on your luck at least with enough attempts you'll be able to get the weapon of your choice.

Though if there's one issue I have I just don't understand why people like Greed/Need/Pass system, to me it just seems stupid, 6/6 could just need it out of Greed, while 5/6 say Greed one would say Need and they would get priority over the item which just sounds dumb. At least from what I"ve gone to understand that's how the system works. I don't understand why they don't just use the basic system in XI, lot or pass it's as simple as that, to add a third option just seems stupid and only leads to quarrels because someone who hit Need really wanted it out of Greed.

[Deceptistar]

While that aspect may suck, at least they appear to be implimenting a concept that will allow you to fight Ifrit x amount of times to guarantee you a weapon of your choice. So if you are down on your luck at least with enough attempts you'll be able to get the weapon of your choice.

x amount of MORE times.
Remember the pple QQing, a good handful of them have done ifrit 100-200 times by now.

I kinda cringe if i need to complete this same hell again =/

[Answa]

Nevermind, official translation released. Both at the same time. Interesting.

[Radiator]

Damn this place sure is getting negative.. hope the devs realize that the majority still appreciate all the great changes. Does Ifrit need a better drop system .. yes. Does it sound like they are totally fixing it.. no.

So basically the are partially fixing it ..

The kind of reactions some people post make me think the developers will stop communicating if they just get beat up every time they share ideas. How hard is it to be constructive and not so emotional. Its as easy as "SE, this doesn't make sense, you are only partially fixing the problem."

[Answa]

Well, with that system you could get two weapons from one run... So... :3

[Claire_Pendragon]

They did this backwards... and on purpose :/
You should be given directly the "Trade in "coins"", while the weapon that can occasionally drop, should go to 'loot list'.

[Quisi]

by making the fight just not be able to go in as often you didn't increase the life of the content. you just made it so instead of 20 hours in a week someone does it 20 hours a month. it's no different on the amount of time they are not in game either way. if they do it 20 a week they are in 20 hours then sit out the rest of the time and the other way they do 5 hours a week and sit out the rest of the time. there is absolutely no difference in the amount of time the content lasts.

Isn't it exactly what Tanaka did with leveling system? XP So Yoshi is going into his predecesors footsteps he he =P

[Krausus]

I agree with the OP though i do appriciate the trade system for multiple kills I would still rather see less drops rot because somone already has it. Previous method for DH and NMs worked just fine.

[Kiara]

our LS too having same situation where melee getting multiple canes that they clearly state they aint gonna use.

we only have 2 people in our ls that doesn't have the sword. 1 is our main tank and the other is a guy with only 2 drops, but we have dropped probably 50 swords to the ground when we could have just simply passed them over.

Someone needs to tell Yoshida that the majority of their players do not have this problem with "ninja looting" and want to regain a sense of teamwork in their goals and rewards. Something we at least had until 1.19. Without it content suffers greatly.

I think personally this is the worst decision the FFXIV team has made since launch.

Well said, Deceptistar, darkstarpoet1, murugan,

We have so many dedicated friends and members in our LS that just need their main weapon (e.g., one of our most dedicated Lancers), and with this crappy Loot System, we've seen the Ifrit Harpoon thrown away on the floor numerous times, or someone who doesn't even play Lancer get it. Same for countless other weapons. It's a slap in the face.

Definitely one of the worst Time Sinks and decisions Yoshida-san and his team have made so far.

(And I really like most of what Yoshida-san has done and can't wait for 2.0!)