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    Player Nakanishi's Avatar
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    Masanobu Nakanishi
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I've seen videos of an AST kiting multiple players pre-nerf and in watching it I realized that it wasn't so much AST was OP but more so that people didn't have the competence in locking down a healer and bursting them down. The video displayed players opening with a stun on a healer, knocking the healer away from melee teammates, breaking ccs preventing the melee to even catch up, simply not bursting, etc. That being said, ASTs are killable, pre-nerf AST it was and even more so with the nerf.
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    Zensho's Avatar
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    Zenmetsu Shogun
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    All your weapon throw are belong to me.
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    Player Nakanishi's Avatar
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    Masanobu Nakanishi
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    Ast is not broken.
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    Violet Flower
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    Arcanist Lv 23
    When you are solo melee dps you can't outdamage their healing output. You can (probably) kill only with 2 potent moves to chip off their HP, stun and immediatelly melee LB, otherwise they'll have time to top themselves again. And it'll not work on a healer with vitality accessories.
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    Last edited by SuperZay; 12-14-2016 at 06:57 AM.

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    Nunomo Nikozo
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    When you are solo melee dps you can't outdamage their healing output. You can (probably) kill only with 2 potent moves to chip off their HP, stun and immediatelly melee LB, otherwise they'll have time to top themselves again. And it'll not work on a healer with vitality accessories.
    I stopped reading when I read "solo"

    If you have that many matches into frontlines and you still think AST are broken, then it's not a AST problem. Nor is it a lack of melee throw for DPS problem.
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    Player Nakanishi's Avatar
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    Masanobu Nakanishi
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    That doesn't make them broken, that makes them a Healer.
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    Ba Nana
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 61
    You should try to be with ur team and especially ur own healers at all times in Frontlines AND Feast unless they're making bad plays. If u find killing with ur group too difficult, u need to learn how to secure kills and use the buffs/debuffs ur party provides u to ur advantage. Getting Battle High/Fever early on in a match is important in order to secure more kills later on.

    u need to pay attention to a healer's buffs in order to successfully lock down a healer in PvP. Any good healer can outrun a DPS just blowing CDs with no real order. A few seconds of stunning goes an extremely long way, especially if the healer has no CDs. u need to build up to ur hard hitting combo and then weave in all ur killing blows between the 2-4 seconds of stun that each melee has. Even when the stuns wear off, ur hard hitting skills should be enough to interrupt casts at the least. Know when to switch targets.
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    Violet Flower
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    If just about every DPS class can solo you as a healer... LOL. Try to play another role maybe, because healing is clearly not for you.
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    Player Nakanishi's Avatar
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    Masanobu Nakanishi
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    So if a healer is not supposed to get solo'd by a DPS, why are you claiming AST is broken because you can't solo them as a melee??
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    Because only AST can spam heals+shields nonstop for a couple of minutes while running. Other healer jobs have limited instant casts so eventually they have to stop for hard cast.
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