Bozja is the most fun I've had with this game in a long time

[Moqi]

Unfortunately they do not ask for feedback to returning players so I'm writing it here. I've stopped subbing months ago and used my 4 days to try Bozja, wanting to clear every ShB content before moving to Endwalker.

I'm not going over everything that I found good and bad here in the rest of the game because I've already commented/liked on the appropriate threads, and my opinion hasn't changed at all since my last posts when I unsubbed (boring jobs, bad glamour, no Viera hats, bad housing, the usual).

BUT I'd like to show some appreciation for Bozja. All the midcore content I've been feeling has lacked ever since they decided to cut and simplify endgame dungeons has apparently been here all this time. It's a shame it's been relegated to a sidequests that not a lot of people will do (but more than old synched Extremes anyway).

This is the only place where FATES are interesting enough to grind; Critical Encounters are just the right casual difficulty for Bosses, with enough dangerous mechanics to keep you on your toes but not overly punishing and a great gate system that doesn't turn them into mindless zergs like Hunts; Castrum and Delubrum Reginae were also the right difficulty: I went in after a quick glance at a guide but they were exactly what I'd expect for a casual player. DR was torture when I tried soloing it but huge thanks to the 7 people who showed up in my PF, you were very nice. Castrum was on the easier side but still enjoyable.


I wish open zones FATES worked like this, letting us climb the ranks of the Grand Company of Eorzea and deal with threats throughout Eorzea/the East in Critical Encounters. It's a shame it's been relegated to instanced, optional zones (mind you, it still had more people than when I was going through ShB MSQ areas).

I wasn't able to finish the entire quest (I only reached rank 20) but I can't wait to go back because I truly did not have this much fun since the HW days.

And if you fix housing, glamours and job identity I'll pay money for it as well!

[NegativeS]

The one thing I don't like about Bozja is that it's an instance so you can't grind it while you queue for other stuff. But it's a neat thing by itself. I enjoy.

[BabyYoda]

Just imagine this kind of system is implemented for open world content for all DT zones.. DT won't be that much flop IMO

[Jeeqbit]

I agree with the sentiment about Bozja. I like Field Operations a lot as well, and we'll be getting another one in about 5-6 months or so.

It's a shame it's been relegated to a sidequests that not a lot of people will do (but more than old synched Extremes anyway).

If you avoid all sidequests then all you're ever gonna do is MSQ. And since some people only play for the story (rather than to be "good" at the game), they make them intentionally easy.

In fairness to them, they distinguish it from regular quests by making it blue. If it's blue, you know it unlocks something and is therefore worth doing.

This is the only place where FATES are interesting enough to grind

They have actually improved this in ShB, EW and DT with gemstone rewards. You can farm the ET and DT ones for gemstone vouchers to get mounts and other rewards. In any case, they make older FATEs useful for older relic grinds.

Castrum was on the easier side but still enjoyable.

It is now but on release with no echo and no stat buffs that we grind in Zadnor, there were a lot of wipes especially to the last boss and sometimes the second boss. The first one wasn't usually a wipe but I did see them.

it still had more people than when I was going through ShB MSQ areas

This is people from across the entire data center though. In the ShB MSQ areas, it's just one world's players, so it would probably be less regardless.

[Einnecy]

Just imagine this kind of system is implemented for open world content for all DT zones.. DT won't be that much flop IMO

Agreed. A new story arc would have been the perfect time to experiment more with gameplay and innovation. Instead the open world content stagnates and rots expansion after expansion, and (content like) Bozja, despite being very fun, dies out because it's instanced content that won't get any more updates come the next expansion. A shame.

They have actually improved this in ShB, EW and DT with gemstone rewards. You can farm the ET and DT ones for gemstone vouchers to get mounts and other rewards. In any case, they make older FATEs useful for older relic grinds.

That's all fine and good, but it does not make the FATEs any more FUN. I'd rather pull from my savings and buy the gemstones exclusives for 50m gil each than invest the time needed getting the vouchers myself by doing the same 2-3 FATEs across 18 zones.

[Jeeqbit]

That's all fine and good, but it does not make the FATEs any more FUN. I'd rather pull from my savings and buy the gemstones exclusives for 50m gil each than invest the time needed getting the vouchers myself by doing the same 2-3 FATEs across 18 zones.

I'm not saying they're as fun as CEs because of it, but if OP finds them fun when there's a purpose such as a grind in Bozja, just making the point that there are grinds that involve them such as gemstone stuff or relics.

[Moqi]

I'm not saying they're as fun as CEs because of it, but if OP finds them fun when there's a purpose such as a grind in Bozja, just making the point that there are grinds that involve them such as gemstone stuff or relics.

I said the opposite of that. Einnecy is right. Grinding is boring but fights in Bozja are fun enough that I don't mind. They can attach as many relics and rewards to regular FATEs and I still won't have fun doing them.

[Fatch38]

want to say : cool story bro but it's only an opinion. personally i hate eureka and bozja, did them only for ozma/iklil mount and only did like 1-2 relics in those. my opinion is it's the worst "content" (because classic grind from early 2000 isn't really a content) that game ever put in, plus it defeat even more the whole purpose of the open world (which really need a rework to make ppl go into those areas outside of hunts and maps sometimes)

[Larirawiel]

Yes, Bozja can be fun (The Red Comet! Hahahaaa!). But took too long, IMHO to get the weapon maxed out. It was too much of the same, over and over again. I hope, the new grind zone in DT will have more variety.



Cheers

[Supersnow845]

Some of us do like grinds. I value my 10/10/10 more than I value ultimate clears. Grinds shouldn’t be discouraged, especially in an area sequestered away from the main game. The rest of the game is already designed around the “play for 5 minutes a year then log off”