You're right Amy and I apologize for not stating that.
They should be making a thread about things they like then instead of inciting arguments on every other thread.

 
			
			
				You're right Amy and I apologize for not stating that.
They should be making a thread about things they like then instead of inciting arguments on every other thread.

 
			
			
				So you guys take information provided by SE- with a grain of salt? Interesting.
What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.

 
			
			
				So we are going to be beta-testing this game for a year AND paying a fee on top of that? Holy moly.
I don't know grandm...I'm having second thoughts here.
don't be silly. you are not open to second thoughts. (the first was hard enough :P)
beta testing? why because we give feedback and changes are made? an MMO is a living, breathing, changing thing. in FF11 how many different changes were made to dragoon over the years the nerfs and the balances? did any1 ever complain that that was a beta for the last 10 years, because it kept changing?
(but then again what would i know about FF11 eh?)
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				You're talking about small changes.
This change is on a much bigger scale...It's completely revamped gameplay.
And we're not paying to test it. We're getting billed after we've had a flavor of it and decide if it's good for us or not. I'm sick and tired of "beta" being such a hot word to use.
To say it's a beta excuses it for what it really is: A game that can never live up to its full potential without a completely replaced client-server application.
If we were actually testing 2.0, then we could call it a beta. What we have now doesn't really have a name for it. It's never been done before as far as I know. But I'd still say we were testing concepts for the future direction of the game.
(original by GalvatronZero)
We're not testing anything. We're playing a game that's version 1.0 and is going to become 2.0 in the future. I know that this doesn't seem too far away from thinking it's beta to 1.0, but this is simply not the case. We're not testing anything, this is live content. They're slowly changing the game in its current version to be as they will make it for 2.0. In the meantime, they will get our feedback, this much is true, but I sincerely doubt they'll close the lines of communication as soon as 2.0 is released.To say it's a beta excuses it for what it really is: A game that can never live up to its full potential without a completely replaced client-server application.
If we were actually testing 2.0, then we could call it a beta. What we have now doesn't really have a name for it. It's never been done before as far as I know. But I'd still say we were testing concepts for the future direction of the game.
Moreover, there are those other unique things concerning the 7th Umbral Era that we're all tired of enumerating over and over.
Calm down. Take a shot of your inhaler if you have to. Breathe.We're not testing anything. We're playing a game that's version 1.0 and is going to become 2.0 in the future. I know that this doesn't seem too far away from thinking it's beta to 1.0, but this is simply not the case. We're not testing anything, this is live content. They're slowly changing the game in its current version to be as they will make it for 2.0. In the meantime, they will get our feedback, this much is true, but I sincerely doubt they'll close the lines of communication as soon as 2.0 is released.
Who's saying they're closing down communication as soon as 2.0 is released? Not me. Not anyone else. Why are you imagining problems?
I'm just saying they are testing out concepts that will be used in 2.0, seeing how we react to it, if there are any balance issues or exploits. That stuff goes on all the time in normal MMOs. It's just 1.0 is getting thrown away, that's the only difference, so whatever they do now is only an approximation, and not the "real thing." There's really no name for what the last year of 1.0 is. But "beta" is not it.
(original by GalvatronZero)
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