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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    I did read the whole 6 pages and I can honestly say I have no idea what your arguments are beyond "there are already other, more cumbersome ways to deal with harassment after the fact so why implement a measure to prevent it ever happening in the first place", which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Also, that there's little RMT on Greg doesn't mean a thing. Greg is not all servers.
    I have alts pretty much on every EU and NA server which I said before so I didnt talked about only gilga.Further more you wont prevent harassment or RMT since it will always exist. I rather use 2 clicks to report RMT bots so they and all of the rmt chars connected to this gets banned instead of just leaving them there getting more and more. I asked you if you read the whole thread because you clearly havent read that OP doesnt really want the exact same thing some ppl suggest here. Making players on player search invisible is different to "This game doesnt allow me to prevent ppl talking to me in the first place"

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    ? PS4 and PS3 PSNs have many privacy settings to prevent people from getting to you. Including an "Incognito" mode. I get what you're saying, but options like these are made because of trolling, spam etc.
    Shows how OP is exaggerating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post

    And yes, there are people who try to follow me around or contact me through tells randomly.
    Shows that OP doesnt want to get tells from anyone not only want to use it against RMT and also shows that this is not only about the player search. So please can everyone stop bringing up that argument that its only about player search to prevent rmt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Sure you can blacklist. But did blacklist ever fix anything? Does reporting ever fix anything nowadays? .
    Shows how wrong the person is because I already proved that simply following someone results in a ban.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    While for different reasons, I would love to be incognito at times when I maybe don't have much time to play and would like to just log on, get things done, then log out. Nothing against my friends at all of course, but being a very sociable person has its own complications at times.
    Usual person who agree to OP but doesnt realise that you can just log in and do stuff and log out without talking already etc. (true friends understand that). Also I have the right as fc master to know who is on in my fc like srsly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    I've been asking for a privacy mode for a while now. It's a little creepy that strangers can look at who you are and what you're doing without any established relationship (friends, members of the same FC or Linkshell, etc).
    Its not creepy at all knowing stuff like char appearance/ingame name etc. isnt creepy at all people still dont know who you are + they can see that ingame too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    Tia I really don't understand why you're fighting this so hard. You're literally the only person in this thread that's against it and I cant understand your arguments enough to figure out why.
    I know which bots you mean but RMT will always find a way. The problem isnt the player search its the rmt bots and the rare ppl who harass others. Just because you take someones gun away doesnt mean he cant kill someone. You have to get rid of the core problem not the way ppl use because they can simply find a new way to reach their goals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    You are arguing something at least 8 people on here are for. You are clearly outnumbered
    Argument which should prove me wrong I guess? lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Seig345 View Post
    Every time someone is reported, that means someone has to look over it, even at least just read it to determine if it's worth looking into.
    While you can already turn off /tell option it will force most ppl out of the busy status sooner or later so its fine again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Trolls gonna troll.
    Someone who cant find a better argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post

    Ignore it?: Shouldn't have to.
    Blacklist?: Shouldn't have to. Easily prevented if they can't get to you in the first place.
    Report?: Too much hassle. Send ticket. Wait for response. And wait for action. And pray for results.
    /Busy?: Shouldn't have to cut off all communication.
    This thread in a nutshell. Lazy ppl everywhere. If it bothers someone so much (any reason?) then use the two fast tools you have which is ignoring/blacklist thats why we have it. It bothers you extremely? Report. In the end since ppl always find a way these options are the best to prevent such stuff in future.

    So dont think arguments on this thread are much better than my own.
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    Last edited by TiaHariberux3; 12-09-2016 at 04:27 AM.

  2. #72
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    Yeah I truly get the feeling this is more about arguing for the sense of arguing.

    First was the argument that this is a social game and thats why it shouldn't be implemented. Even though the only thing it does is taking you off the player search. You can still chat, get tells from people near you and more..even more since this would stop RMT sending you a invite if you are not near them it might even make the game more social. And if the OP get random tells from someone or is followed by someone this would stop it, because they can only find them through player search, not sure how you got it different.

    The other was about new players. I am still not sure why this would be bad. This is a optional status so not everyone will use it and I am quite sure that a lot of new players wont look up the search function randomly. With the status they could even still send a tell to someone nearby and they have the newbie chat to ask questions.

    I also had my experiences with horrible players, one was even going around telling other lies, stalking our FC when we had a event with another FC and many more things. Sending a report did nothing..its probably not that easy to punish someone just for stalking. Being able to at least go unnoticed by those would be nice and the RMT could not sent those annoying invites anymore if they are not near one..(and those annoying random FC invites would stop too) Just because its not that bad on one server does not mean that its good everywhere. And I am sorry on Moogle I had quite a lot of random RMT invites the last few days..

    I just truly cant see any negative side for this. Its optional, its only for the search function, it would be helpful..so why are you trying so hard to argue against it? Why are you so aggressive in your posts? :/
    Yeah posting that you are a troll is not nice but the other people did nothing wrong and yet you verbally attack them so much..

    @Edit: I dont use the screenshot feature yet I would not go around in the forum and argue that its so unnecessary just because I find no use in it. You might thing other options are better but seeing the likes on the first post and most of the answers, a lot of people would like it. Really there is nothing negative to it. You would probably not even notice that its part of the game if you dont use it. But for those that are stalked, for those that get RMT tells or spam from FCs this might help.

    And just because some posted their own version of this status does not change the meaning of the original post.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 12-09-2016 at 03:02 AM.

  3. #73
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    We get it: you disagree. That's fine, but I'd recommend you maybe relax a bit rather than come thundering in after everyone.

    To clarify, I never said I don't do exactly what you said, and you made the assumption besides. The point about being an FC leader is valid, and for that very same reason, I'm in and run a purposely small one. It's not uncommon to be the only person on at times, and I'm quite satisfied with that. Whether I'd personally use it or not (I probably wouldn't) it's not a bad idea.

    But you disagree. And that's fine.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
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    First of all Im not aggressive at all and I havent verbal attacked someone if you think otherwise please quote smth from me to prove me wrong. But the problem is you all pick only the thing "disable player search to prevent rmt /tells and invites" which wasnt the only thing that OP suggested which lead me to my 2nd argument with new players I even quoted OP somewhere where he/she already said that ppl shouldnt be able to talk to him/her in the first place. Some people even suggested making it impossible to see players online or not in fc etc. Its easy to pick the good stuff and ignoring all the bad stuff that got suggested in the first place.

    So also I never said that new players use the player search function. (here again if I said it quote me).

    Next point would be "I reported someone but he didnt got punished" how you know he didnt got punished? Right you cant know because GMs wont tell you if said person got a warning/ban. Sure you can check if the person is offline or online days after but if he got only a warning you wouldnt know that.


    Like I said countless of times with "preventing rmt". Check my post above it wont fix the problem itself. Years ago they spammed friends request then it was mostly /tells now its party invites there is always a way. See my post above for more arguments about this rmt.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    We get it: you disagree. That's fine, but I'd recommend you maybe relax a bit rather than come thundering in after everyone.
    Im relaxed not my fault if ppl read it in a aggressive way or smth like that lool
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    Last edited by TiaHariberux3; 12-09-2016 at 03:19 AM.

  5. #75
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    Calling me "captain obvious" wasnt exactly a neutral way to start your response to my post. I couldn't really make any sense out of what you meant with the rest of your response to my post.

    You're posting in a forum, a social activity by default, so "it's not my fault if you think I'm aggressive" doesn't really fly; social interactions involve the perspective of everyone involved, not just you.

    The original post of this thread was simply asking for an option to hide from player search, thats why everyone is discussing that. You can pull up additional comments made by the thread creator all you want, but their personal reasoning behind the option does not nullify the additional reasoning offered by other posters.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Or you can accept the social aspect of a mmorpg like normal people.
    How about no - Feature like this coupled with a hide player character model would make the game much more enjoyable for a portion of the population. Great suggestion OP
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    Better customization will help. Letting you check boxes (FC, Friends, LS, etc..)

    - Receiving tells.
    - Receiving party invites.
    - Receiving LS, FC invites.
    Check the box and you will allow certain people to do certain things.

    This should give more options to mess with.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladesinger View Post
    How about no - Feature like this coupled with a hide player character model would make the game much more enjoyable for a portion of the population. Great suggestion OP
    Another person who reply to my first post and not the others lel. Yea hide player character this thread get even better ideas than before lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Another person who reply to my first post and not the others lel. Yea hide player character this thread get even better ideas than before lmao
    Not worth the time or effort - Some people simply don't want to socialize with people that think forced socialization is a normal thing =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Im relaxed not my fault if ppl read it in a aggressive way or smth like that lool
    Ah, we're playing that game now? Okay.
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