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  1. #51
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Ehm this is false people can ask me stuff in that time Im already somewhere else. Also it doesnt really filter RMT since bots can be everywhere.
    But they aren't. Because they aren't programmed to be everywhere. The bots that contact people are stationary. Bots that move don't interact with anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    But they aren't. Because they aren't programmed to be everywhere. The bots that contact people are stationary. Bots that move don't interact with anywhere.
    Proof? I mean I even doubt that u get rmt tells at all since you are on the same server as me. Even if it was true ppl who run those bots adjust and always find a way.
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    I've been asking for a privacy mode for a while now. It's a little creepy that strangers can look at who you are and what you're doing without any established relationship (friends, members of the same FC or Linkshell, etc). Even your lodestone information. I've had both abused by RMT numerous times over the years, and only seen it used legitimately maybe once. I'd rather play with a little more security and privacy some filters would be nice, SE!
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Or you can accept the social aspect of a mmorpg like normal people.
    Having some time for yourself and not wanting to be disturbed is part of being sociable. A very important part, actually. Everyone needs some time for themselves. If you've ever been in a relationship, you know this to be true.

    Besides, it seems the core idea of OP's incognito system would be to avoid bots and people who bug you, thus making social interactions far more enjoyable.
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    Last edited by caelumsixsmith; 12-08-2016 at 06:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    So ideally, it should be a status you can set just prior to logging in, so that it could both keep you out of Player Search, and prevent FC member login notification.
    On that note, this is something I think every online game should offer, but especially FFXIV. Unless there's a far easier method I'm not aware of, changing your status isn't as simple as clicking one or two buttons. And a little off topic, but we should be able to set which chat channel we want as our primary one. Always have to change to my FC chat when I get online.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by caelumsixsmith View Post
    Having some time for yourself and not wanting to be disturbed is part of being sociable. A very important part, actually. Everyone needs some time for themselves. If you've ever been in a relationship, you know this to be true.
    Nothing stops you from that right now. RMT always finds a way to msg u unless you block everyone. If you read OP and my posts you would have know that its not only about rmt. Idk why u even quote me since I already stated that I'm not very social and that you can have time playing alone nothing prevents u from that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    I've been asking for a privacy mode for a while now. It's a little creepy that strangers can look at who you are and what you're doing without any established relationship (friends, members of the same FC or Linkshell, etc). Even your lodestone information. I've had both abused by RMT numerous times over the years, and only seen it used legitimately maybe once. I'd rather play with a little more security and privacy some filters would be nice, SE!
    More details? You can change lodestone settings and they can't look up who u are lol. Unless you write your name etc. On lodestone and make it public
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Ehm this is false people can ask me stuff in that time Im already somewhere else.
    That's not the point though, it doesn't matter that they can still contact you after you've left the area. The point is how they come about your name. In this case it's by seeing you "in person", rather than player searching you, and hiding yourself from player search won't interfere with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    That's not the point though, it doesn't matter that they can still contact you after you've left the area. The point is how they come about your name. In this case it's by seeing you "in person", rather than player searching you, and hiding yourself from player search won't interfere with that.
    You may want to read the whole 6pages where OP complained about ppl who send him/her a /tell (real players) before posting smth. My point is you don't need the player search to make a bot that send out /tells to random ppl (hint use lodestone data etc.). Besides that RMT tells are very rare in general on gilgamesh even basically non existed. But oh well since no one can find smth besides the "rmt" excuse this is getting boring. I wonder if u even read all pages.
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    Cinno Lerem
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    Tia I really don't understand why you're fighting this so hard. You're literally the only person in this thread that's against it and I cant understand your arguments enough to figure out why.

    Let me try and break this down for you, to give you a little bit of information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    But they aren't. Because they aren't programmed to be everywhere. The bots that contact people are stationary. Bots that move don't interact with anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Proof? I mean I even doubt that u get rmt tells at all since you are on the same server as me. Even if it was true ppl who run those bots adjust and always find a way.
    On the RMT issue:
    There are different kinds of RMT bots, but they are each programmed to do a specific thing. They cant all be omni-bots as that would require too much code and risk the code bugging out. Therefore each bot only focuses on one task at a time.
    • You have your farming bots. These are the piles of archers/blm that pop up, blast every enemy nearby, then teleport to a different location. This is all they do. They wipe out hordes of enemies to gather tons and tons of loot/mats to sell on the mb.
    • You have your /say bots. These are the bots that stand in front of the MB and constantly advertise in /say. Annoying, but less harmful than the rest.
    • Then you have your advertising bots. These are bots that stand in one location and go through the Player Search System list, one person at a time, and send them /tells (or lately, send out party invites..) This is the one being talked about in this thread.
    I understand that you may not experience much spam from them, but I can ASSURE YOU that this varies from server to server. On my server I still get several /tells a day. And yes, you CAN report and blacklist them, but it isn't the 'instant fix' you make it out to be. When the /tells I get are from 10-12 different rmt bots, it's still a hassle and its an issue that shouldn't exist.

    This can be fixed by having my name removed from the player search system (using the incognito status), eliminating the bots method of finding me.
    Yes they can still use the Lodestone, but that wont be very efficient for them as they would have no way of knowing if I was online.

    -----

    And honestly I don't understand your whole "This would be bad for new players!" Honestly the new players don't usually even know what the Player Search System is, or how to use it.

    This status would be MORE beneficial than busy status. With busy ticked on, they can see you run by, but have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO TALK TO YOU, AT ALL. So they cant ask a question, or ask for help at all.

    With this status they could still send you a /tell if they see you. Seems to actually be more beneficial to new players than the busy status, no?

    The only difference between this status and the busy status, is that your name wont appear in the Player Search. Whereas with Busy status, it appears in the list but they have no way to actually contact you anyway.

    -This is an improvement on the busy status-

    Please, respond. Tell me your views on this so I can take the time to decipher your posts and try and figure out -exactly- why you're the only person on these forums against this obvious improvement.
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    Last edited by Cinno; 12-08-2016 at 07:22 PM.

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