How About An "Incognito" Player Status?

[Kio]

I've been asking for a privacy mode for a while now. It's a little creepy that strangers can look at who you are and what you're doing without any established relationship (friends, members of the same FC or Linkshell, etc). Even your lodestone information. I've had both abused by RMT numerous times over the years, and only seen it used legitimately maybe once. I'd rather play with a little more security and privacy some filters would be nice, SE!

[TiaHariberux3]

I've been asking for a privacy mode for a while now. It's a little creepy that strangers can look at who you are and what you're doing without any established relationship (friends, members of the same FC or Linkshell, etc). Even your lodestone information. I've had both abused by RMT numerous times over the years, and only seen it used legitimately maybe once. I'd rather play with a little more security and privacy some filters would be nice, SE!

More details? You can change lodestone settings and they can't look up who u are lol. Unless you write your name etc. On lodestone and make it public

[Cinno]

Tia I really don't understand why you're fighting this so hard. You're literally the only person in this thread that's against it and I cant understand your arguments enough to figure out why.

Let me try and break this down for you, to give you a little bit of information.

But they aren't. Because they aren't programmed to be everywhere. The bots that contact people are stationary. Bots that move don't interact with anywhere.

Proof? I mean I even doubt that u get rmt tells at all since you are on the same server as me. Even if it was true ppl who run those bots adjust and always find a way.

On the RMT issue:
There are different kinds of RMT bots, but they are each programmed to do a specific thing. They cant all be omni-bots as that would require too much code and risk the code bugging out. Therefore each bot only focuses on one task at a time.

• You have your farming bots. These are the piles of archers/blm that pop up, blast every enemy nearby, then teleport to a different location. This is all they do. They wipe out hordes of enemies to gather tons and tons of loot/mats to sell on the mb.

• You have your /say bots. These are the bots that stand in front of the MB and constantly advertise in /say. Annoying, but less harmful than the rest.

• Then you have your advertising bots. These are bots that stand in one location and go through the Player Search System list, one person at a time, and send them /tells (or lately, send out party invites..) This is the one being talked about in this thread.

I understand that you may not experience much spam from them, but I can ASSURE YOU that this varies from server to server. On my server I still get several /tells a day. And yes, you CAN report and blacklist them, but it isn't the 'instant fix' you make it out to be. When the /tells I get are from 10-12 different rmt bots, it's still a hassle and its an issue that shouldn't exist.

This can be fixed by having my name removed from the player search system (using the incognito status), eliminating the bots method of finding me.
Yes they can still use the Lodestone, but that wont be very efficient for them as they would have no way of knowing if I was online.

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And honestly I don't understand your whole "This would be bad for new players!" Honestly the new players don't usually even know what the Player Search System is, or how to use it.

This status would be MORE beneficial than busy status. With busy ticked on, they can see you run by, but have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO TALK TO YOU, AT ALL. So they cant ask a question, or ask for help at all.

With this status they could still send you a /tell if they see you. Seems to actually be more beneficial to new players than the busy status, no?

The only difference between this status and the busy status, is that your name wont appear in the Player Search. Whereas with Busy status, it appears in the list but they have no way to actually contact you anyway.

-This is an improvement on the busy status-

Please, respond. Tell me your views on this so I can take the time to decipher your posts and try and figure out -exactly- why you're the only person on these forums against this obvious improvement.

[Seig345]

Every time someone is reported, that means someone has to look over it, even at least just read it to determine if it's worth looking into.

The option to mitigate the need to report reduces the workload for those people, and does nothing to harm new players. If someone chooses to hide themselves from player search, they probably aren't someone to ask help from.

This option has nothing to do with tells and people can already opt to turn off the tell chime and filter tells out altogether, so the option to hide from player search isnt going to exacerbate that particular issue.

[Alleo]

Yeah I truly get the feeling this is more about arguing for the sense of arguing.

First was the argument that this is a social game and thats why it shouldn't be implemented. Even though the only thing it does is taking you off the player search. You can still chat, get tells from people near you and more..even more since this would stop RMT sending you a invite if you are not near them it might even make the game more social. And if the OP get random tells from someone or is followed by someone this would stop it, because they can only find them through player search, not sure how you got it different.

The other was about new players. I am still not sure why this would be bad. This is a optional status so not everyone will use it and I am quite sure that a lot of new players wont look up the search function randomly. With the status they could even still send a tell to someone nearby and they have the newbie chat to ask questions.

I also had my experiences with horrible players, one was even going around telling other lies, stalking our FC when we had a event with another FC and many more things. Sending a report did nothing..its probably not that easy to punish someone just for stalking. Being able to at least go unnoticed by those would be nice and the RMT could not sent those annoying invites anymore if they are not near one..(and those annoying random FC invites would stop too) Just because its not that bad on one server does not mean that its good everywhere. And I am sorry on Moogle I had quite a lot of random RMT invites the last few days..

I just truly cant see any negative side for this. Its optional, its only for the search function, it would be helpful..so why are you trying so hard to argue against it? Why are you so aggressive in your posts? :/
Yeah posting that you are a troll is not nice but the other people did nothing wrong and yet you verbally attack them so much..

@Edit: I dont use the screenshot feature yet I would not go around in the forum and argue that its so unnecessary just because I find no use in it. You might thing other options are better but seeing the likes on the first post and most of the answers, a lot of people would like it. Really there is nothing negative to it. You would probably not even notice that its part of the game if you dont use it. But for those that are stalked, for those that get RMT tells or spam from FCs this might help.

And just because some posted their own version of this status does not change the meaning of the original post.

[TiaHariberux3]

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First of all Im not aggressive at all and I havent verbal attacked someone if you think otherwise please quote smth from me to prove me wrong. But the problem is you all pick only the thing "disable player search to prevent rmt /tells and invites" which wasnt the only thing that OP suggested which lead me to my 2nd argument with new players I even quoted OP somewhere where he/she already said that ppl shouldnt be able to talk to him/her in the first place. Some people even suggested making it impossible to see players online or not in fc etc. Its easy to pick the good stuff and ignoring all the bad stuff that got suggested in the first place.

So also I never said that new players use the player search function. (here again if I said it quote me).

Next point would be "I reported someone but he didnt got punished" how you know he didnt got punished? Right you cant know because GMs wont tell you if said person got a warning/ban. Sure you can check if the person is offline or online days after but if he got only a warning you wouldnt know that.


Like I said countless of times with "preventing rmt". Check my post above it wont fix the problem itself. Years ago they spammed friends request then it was mostly /tells now its party invites there is always a way. See my post above for more arguments about this rmt.

We get it: you disagree. That's fine, but I'd recommend you maybe relax a bit rather than come thundering in after everyone.

Im relaxed not my fault if ppl read it in a aggressive way or smth like that lool

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Im relaxed not my fault if ppl read it in a aggressive way or smth like that lool

Ah, we're playing that game now? Okay.

[TiaHariberux3]

Ah, we're playing that game now? Okay.

Hmmm? I just told the truth one person calls me aggressive and that I verbally attack people and you say that I should "relax". If someone think like this its fine doesnt mean its true tho.

inb4 getting ostracized as mean

I've seen quite a lot of bait and it looks like everyone keeps biting hard. You have a post limit, wasting it on a helpless cause isn't worth it. Accept that you can't convince everyone and Tia isn't going to move. They're going to scream and text lingo respond until they can't anymore. I know for a fact they'll comeback with some nonsensical attack, because it's all they've been doing.

So let's all calm down, and ignore this person for the sake of not going in another circle.

Im not baiting at all I just say what I think there is a reason why its called "general discussion". Calling me aggressive etc. is the only thing wrong here tbh. No one really cares about post limit since you can just edit posts to add stuff.

[SpiritMuse]

First of all Im not aggressive at all

lol You wrote a massive post with 10 quotes just to prove how I'm wrong and you're right. You have to admit that if not outright agressive, it's at the very least a bit heavy handed, no?

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

We get it: you disagree. That's fine, but I'd recommend you maybe relax a bit rather than come thundering in after everyone.

To clarify, I never said I don't do exactly what you said, and you made the assumption besides. The point about being an FC leader is valid, and for that very same reason, I'm in and run a purposely small one. It's not uncommon to be the only person on at times, and I'm quite satisfied with that. Whether I'd personally use it or not (I probably wouldn't) it's not a bad idea.

But you disagree. And that's fine.