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    Also, please don't forget Swift Cast + Shadow Flare anytime you can. Especially on trash mob!!!! Cleric Stand or not!!!! Do under estimate the power of 30 seconds AOE slow debuff with no diminishing return, it's a god send! The slow will not work on bosses, so use it as you see fit.
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    I just used Bio after Swiftcast and then Summoin II, the Summoin II was instant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pintsized View Post
    I just used Bio after Swiftcast and then Summoin II, the Summoin II was instant.
    Did you make sure to cast Bio after Swiftcast registered as a buff? I've done it plenty of times where I will start to cast Raise after using Swiftcast because I'm too quick with my inputs. You have to give it a sec for the game to apply the buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Whichever you choose, you're not going to swap mid battle.
    For those moments when the tank spins the boss and cleaves your poor fairy into oblivion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus_ex_Machina View Post
    Also, please don't forget Swift Cast + Shadow Flare anytime you can. Especially on trash mob!!!! Cleric Stand or not!!!! Do under estimate the power of 30 seconds AOE slow debuff with no diminishing return, it's a god send! The slow will not work on bosses, so use it as you see fit.
    As a tank, I can tell you that Shadow flare's 5% slow debuff is completely worthless and has no effect on the amount of damage I take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    For those moments when the tank spins the boss and cleaves your poor fairy into oblivion.
    Heh yea, resummoning your dead pet is an adequate use of swiftcast - summon, but I was specifically talking about switching pets :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    As a tank, I can tell you that Shadow flare's 5% slow debuff is completely worthless and has no effect on the amount of damage I take.
    That is incorrect. You take precisely 5% less damage per second as the mobs are hitting you 5% slower.
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    Which is such a tiny number that in order for it to have an effect, you'd need at least 2 minutes of uninterrupted slow to have a noticeable decrease in damage. Awareness negates more damage in 15 seconds...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Which is such a tiny number that in order for it to have an effect, you'd need at least 2 minutes of uninterrupted slow to have a noticeable decrease in damage. Awareness negates more damage in 15 seconds...
    Awareness has the potential to decrease damage more, but it also has the potential to not decrease damage at all.

    5% is not insignificant, but it obviously shouldn't be relied upon as the only form of damage mitigation.
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  9. #29
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    If we're talking trash mobs, 5% is insignificant. You can overstate the effectiveness, but it doesn't change the fact that awareness and foresight, the two absolute weakest tank cd's, mitigate more damage in their respective durations than SF's Slow does in two minutes. Awareness only needs to 'proc' once to completely overshadow any defensive benefits of the Slow, and the chance of being critted increases drastically the more mobs you have pummeling you. SF's slow is more window dressing than it is actual mitigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    As a tank, I can tell you that Shadow flare's 5% slow debuff is completely worthless and has no effect on the amount of damage I take.
    I'm sorry to hear your opposing opinion... To you it may not mean much, but to me, it's a lot more efficient way to manage my Aetherflow Stacks, I rather not waste my 1 stack on Sacred Soil and then another stack on Bane.

    And i'm sure you are just talking about the Slow status, but that post is a little misleading to newer members in our community. People could take it as "Do not use Shadow Flare"

    I just want to clarify that Shadow Flare is also a 30 seconds DoT, 25 potency per tick (total potency of 250 per mob). and if you have 3 mobs that's a total potency of 750 over the course of 30 seconds. With out a damage drop off as long as the mob stay within the AOE. Unlicke Bane, it has a 50% damage reduction on the 4th mob and beyond
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