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  1. #11
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    alimdia's Avatar
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Yep, those are all abilities, not spells. As another interesting point, healing abilities aren't affected by any buff that increases incoming or outgoing heals, such as defiance and convalescence, as far as I know nothing can buff them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Yep, those are all abilities, not spells. As another interesting point, healing abilities aren't affected by any buff that increases incoming or outgoing heals, such as defiance and convalescence, as far as I know nothing can buff them.
    Raw boosts to mind from pots can. Technically the spear is an HPS buff too. Lulz.

    Also, yes, swiftcast will be consumed by any spell cast following it, instant or hard cast.... but proc based spells like Fire III from a fire starter or a Thunder variant with thundercloud will consume their respective proc buffs instead of swiftcast.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 12-06-2016 at 09:44 AM.

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    Cait Zilla
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    FF Dev certainly don't like to make things work simply xD
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    Linu La'neral
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    Just for interest, it works on summoning carbuncles too .
    Change them on the run .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightroad View Post
    Just for interest, it works on summoning carbuncles too .
    Change them on the run .
    Oh yeah!. The only very rare times I summon an Egi without Swiftcast is because Swiftcast in on Cooldown.
    I hope when they gonna mess up with the skills in 5.0 that they're not gonna remove our access to Swiftcast as a SMN :O
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    Like Rawrz said, my instant cast procs for Fire 3 and Thunder 3 do not consume Swiftcast either, but they also do not consume MP, so is it linked to that maybe?
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightroad View Post
    Just for interest, it works on summoning carbuncles too .
    Change them on the run .
    Why would you ever change your pet? You pretty much have access to Useful Pet, Useful Pet minus some damage, and Useless Pet as a Summoner, Useful Pet and Useless Pet as a Arcansit, and I'd say two Useful Pets that you'd never want to switch out in the middle of battle as SCH.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Like Rawrz said, my instant cast procs for Fire 3 and Thunder 3 do not consume Swiftcast either, but they also do not consume MP, so is it linked to that maybe?
    It sounds that the proc itself makes the spell an ability. That's interesting to know, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Why would you ever change your pet? You pretty much have access to Useful Pet, Useful Pet minus some damage, and Useless Pet as a Summoner, Useful Pet and Useless Pet as a Arcansit, and I'd say two Useful Pets that you'd never want to switch out in the middle of battle as SCH.
    Garuda for trash, Ifrit for bosses?
    Selene for everything unless you'd otherwise actually have to heal the tank?

    Pretty sure Nightroad didn't literally mean mid-battle but while running from one pack to the next/from the last pack to the next boss and so on^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Garuda for trash, Ifrit for bosses?
    Selene for everything unless you'd otherwise actually have to heal the tank?

    Pretty sure Nightroad didn't literally mean mid-battle but while running from one pack to the next/from the last pack to the next boss and so on^^
    Garuda is superior for bosses and for trash.

    I tend to prefer Eos, as the added healing capabilities allows for me to DPS more, which makes a bigger difference than a 1.5% speed boost. However, Selene works for many. Whichever you choose, you're not going to swap mid battle. There is also no reason to swap between pulls. If you're swapping between pulls, you do not use swiftcast, you save that for Shadowflare.
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    Levi Invidia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Fun Fact: Swiftcast also works on instant cast spells.
    I cannot tell you how many time I've used Swift Cast + Ruin II... The amount of tear I've shed can probably drown the population of Primal Data center...
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    Last edited by Deus_ex_Machina; 12-07-2016 at 01:48 AM.

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