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  1. #11
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    Lollie's Avatar
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    Lollie Ondoreil
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    I used it, and guess what happened? They yelled and said the Healer could have used it.
    With relatively good cause. With an lb3 assuming it isn't going to wipe everyone simultaneously, such as an Akh Morn would not. You are better off having the healer stand outside of it, let the others soak as many hits of it as they can and die (or preferably live). Then scrape everyone off the floor with full hp/mp and new and improved no raise weakness penalty.

    Tank lb thus far is only technically useful if it will prevent having all your rez capable members from taking a dirt nap. Someone may have to correct but im fairly certain if you are dead and rez with heal lb3 the invincibility window from that is actually longer then the reduced dmg window from a tank lb
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    Last edited by Lollie; 12-09-2016 at 01:46 AM.

  2. #12
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 80
    There was one time when I was farming World of Darkness that I saved the party from the last boss' nuke after she'd eaten too many clouds with an LB3.

    That felt good.

    I do think that the tank LB feels a little bit lackluster, but I also see the design problem: how can you make something that's potentially useful without making situations where it is necessary?

    Perhaps if they split it up so that each role had a different limit break gauge, it could work?
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  3. #13
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    I use it in dungeons (where it's not critical to really use ever) as a boss reaches low HP, simply because the DPS probably should have used it earlier.
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  4. #14
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    Brown Sugar
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 62
    The only time I got to use it consistently was a while back to survive Garuda's big attack during her phase change. People seem fine nowadays though.
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  5. #15
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    ZhaneX's Avatar
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    Zana Amariyo
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I've found myself having to use it an unfortunate number of times to prevent wiping on A10.
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  6. #16
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    LB2 is a Rampart on the entire party and LB3 is 50% reduction which is stronger than Sentinel... and for the whole party.
    Ive heard it was 50% as well, but Ive also heard A12S ultimate is 240k dmg.
    with a 20k crit aldo on our WAR tank, we take about 100 dmg or less with LB3.
    w/o LB3, with 47k hp, and 20k crit aldo on, it still kills the WAR, rather than doing just 20k dmg.
    (Me as DRK with 35k hp, and tank stance, i also die)

    So im starting to think LB3 has been improved to be waaaay more than -50%, otherwise we could find a way to survive Alex ultimate w/o it.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  7. #17
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Ive heard it was 50% as well, but Ive also heard A12S ultimate is 240k dmg.
    with a 20k crit aldo on our WAR tank, we take about 100 dmg or less with LB3.
    w/o LB3, with 47k hp, and 20k crit aldo on, it still kills the WAR, rather than doing just 20k dmg.
    (Me as DRK with 35k hp, and tank stance, i also die)

    So im starting to think LB3 has been improved to be waaaay more than -50%, otherwise we could find a way to survive Alex ultimate w/o it.
    The numbers are different all over the place cause it doesn't get enough use for anyone to figure it out properly. The originally accepted values for LB 1-2-3 were 10%-20%-50%.
    But since then some say 20%-40%-80%. And any random variations in between those.
    It's hard to test since it gets so little use, has no personal tooltip and isn't exactly something you can just go out and do to check the numbers.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 12-10-2016 at 01:45 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

  8. #18
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    King Canadane
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    I've been under the understanding it's 80% reduction on LB3. Never heard or quoted as 50% before.
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  9. #19
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I've been under the understanding it's 80% reduction on LB3. Never heard or quoted as 50% before.
    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Limit_Break
    10-20-50
    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/L...al_Fantasy_XIV)
    10-20-50
    http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Limit_Break
    20-40-80
    http://www.ffxivinfo.com/content/limit-breaks.php
    10-20-50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

  10. #20
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    Cecilia Tyyne
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 80
    Tank LB rarely sees use outside of specific or niche scenarios. As others have previously mentioned, using tank LB3 to survive Bahamut Prime's Teraflare in a synched party or Alexander's Divine Judgment is one way to use it. There would also be niche scenarios, such as using it as an extra mitigation cooldown when all of your other defensive buffs are on cooldown, or during a big pull in a dungeon and you got paired up with two melee DPS.

    Ideally, you shouldn't have to use tank LB unless it's absolutely necessary, such as surviving an attack that would otherwise oneshot your party, or it's an emergency.
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