Really SE 40+ kills and no drop?

[Nexus]

So my LS and I just got done Farming the NM who gives the Copper Zahar'ak key and we got the keys but no drops of the Wristband for mages. We farmed it for over 5 hours and some 45-50 kills later still nothing. Explain how this drop rate is even fair or works cause im baffled as to how the hell you can get numerous keys and open the chest over and over and over and be rewarded with crap gear but not the rare item, yet a person can go in and in 5-10 mins get the drop? I believe the drop rate of this item as well as others from the chests in Strongholds needs to be looked at closely and adjusted because come on who wants to farm something for endless hours each night just to not get the item after 100 or more tries?

[Sephrick]

Welcome to the next year of our lives. 1.x is nothing more than a pacifier to keep us occupied to v2.

[Neptune]

Welcome to the next year of our lives. 1.x is nothing more than a pacifier to keep us occupied to v2.

The dev team probably divided the active server population by a set number to produce an extremely low drop rate. It's made so that you will run it dozens of times. You could do that, or play an offline game that doesn't do that to you. LOL.

[Seif]

"Though these numbers aren't actual, he characterizes the system like this: the first time you kill a monster, you have a 16% chance of getting the item. The second 32%, third 48%, and this progresses to 100%. But he warns "it also got rid of all of the good streaks and we had to raise the base drop percentage higher." 
-Christian Nutt gamasutra article.

Why in this day and age are there still completely random drops to begin with?
By design this makes the player feel like he's not making any progress by grinding.

Let the op know after each kill with a bar or a number that his chances of obtaining the said item is approaching 100%

Another way to do it is just to give a lot higher chances of drops but split the loot into parts like in monster hunter.
You need 4 Lagisaurus horns to craft one weapon. One drops almost every time the party focuses their attacks on it and players grind the same fight but with a sense of purpose.

This random crap is an MMO relic to keep people in an imaginary treadmill that's likely not going anywhere. You can make us grind just us much by actually making us feel like we're approaching our goals by being more honest in game design.

Rolling the dice after successfully overcoming a challenge is just undermining all the skill the player just showcased by killing the mob. This is 2011. Act accordingly!

[Jennestia]

This random crap is an MMO relic to keep people in an imaginary treadmill that's likely not going anywhere.

Yeah!

This is 2011. Act accordingly

Dammit Skyward Sword why did you make upgrade items random drops!?

[Betelgeuzah]

This random crap is an MMO relic to keep people in an imaginary treadmill that's likely not going anywhere. You can make us grind just us much by actually making us feel like we're approaching our goals by being more honest in game design.

That works both ways.

It's the case of "any time might be the One" versus "Ugh, still 50 more kills to go before I am over with this crap?"

It's not so black-and-white as the communities might naively think.

[AmyRae]

That works both ways.

It's the case of "any time might be the One" versus "Ugh, still 50 more kills to go before I am over with this crap?"

It's not so black-and-white as the communities might naively think.

I agree. It's actually more addictive if your next attempt might be the "jackpot" rather than having a scheduled reward you can rely on. Just like a slot machine.

[Felis]

Why in this day and age are there still completely random drops to begin with?
By design this makes the player feel like he's not making any progress by grinding.

Let the op know after each kill with a bar or a number that his chances of obtaining the said item is approaching 100%

Another way to do it is just to give a lot higher chances of drops but split the loot into parts like in monster hunter.
You need 4 Lagisaurus horns to craft one weapon. One drops almost every time the party focuses their attacks on it and players grind the same fight but with a sense of purpose.

This random crap is an MMO relic to keep people in an imaginary treadmill that's likely not going anywhere. You can make us grind just us much by actually making us feel like we're approaching our goals by being more honest in game design.

Rolling the dice after successfully overcoming a challenge is just undermining all the skill the player just showcased by killing the mob. This is 2011. Act accordingly!

Can you write a letter to the casino owners in Las Vegas? I hate the random crap there, too. I mean it's 2011, isn't it? Just give everyone after the 20. try the jackpot ^^

[Synthesis]

Thats why its rare ) otherwise everyone would run in the same gear.

[Answa]

Yeah, SE, hand everything down to us on a platter so we get bored quick!