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    Marites Norwood
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    Bard Disappointing

    Is it me or is the Bard a disappointment ?
    Why would I want to play as a Bard when the Archer is so much better.
    I must be missing something.
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    How is it a disappointment?
    It wasn't what you expected it to be?
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    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

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    I have lost so many skills and gained very little unless in a group.
    Do I need to play as a Bard to level this class or does it just run with my Archer level ?
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek029 View Post
    I have lost so many skills and gained very little unless in a group.
    Do I need to play as a Bard to level this class or does it just run with my Archer level ?
    You don't actually lose any skills apart from a few cross class skills (skills from other classes). You might need to check your Action tab since they can disappear of your hotbars when you change.

    BRD is basically Archer with extra skills. Think of Jobs and an upgraded level on existing classes. Its worth noting you will get quite a lot of new skills while lvling. After 50 the only new skills you get are all BRD ones.
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    Last edited by Belhi; 12-05-2016 at 12:48 PM.

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    Maybe I will get used to it but it does not seem to be a natural progression from an Archer.
    For example Galdiator to Paladin makes sense as do a lot of others ..... but not the Bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek029 View Post
    Maybe I will get used to it but it does not seem to be a natural progression from an Archer.
    For example Galdiator to Paladin makes sense as do a lot of others ..... but not the Bard.
    Do you mean story/lore wise, gameplay wise or something else?

    Effectively gameplay wise Bard is basically an archer with a few extra support skills.

    Lore wise it actually makes quite a bit of sense and I can explain it if you want.
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    Bards and Machinist stealing Limit Breaks (Lv.3) are a disappointment, because they are the weakest DPS in the game!...

    Now if you like Archer's cross-skills better than Bard's then you might be shocked to find out the former's usefulness becomes largely unnecessary in the late game and that the latter ends up being way better and much stronger!...

    Rumors tell Square Enix is planning to get rid of Classes for once so bad luck for those of us whom had hopes they would be improved eventually!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    Bards and Machinist stealing Limit Breaks (Lv.3) are a disappointment, because they are the weakest DPS in the game!...

    Now if you like Archer's cross-skills better than Bard's then you might be shocked to find out the former's usefulness becomes largely unnecessary in the late game and that the latter ends up being way better and much stronger!...

    Rumors tell Square Enix is planning to get rid of Classes for once so bad luck for those of us whom had hopes they would be improved eventually!...
    Why do you bold names and terms as if you're in an RPG? Secondly, if the other DPS are going to fall asleep, I'll LB as my MCH because I don't like hoarding LBs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Why do you bold names and terms as if you're in an RPG? Secondly, if the other DPS are going to fall asleep, I'll LB as my MCH because I don't like hoarding LBs.
    Meh, that's off-topic!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    Meh, that's off-topic!...
    So was your comment about the ranged DPS stealing LB3? If you wanna use your melee LB3 so bad, then use it before the boss hits 1% HP. Otherwise, don't waste it. If I don't see melee using the LB3 in a duty, I sure as heck won't let it go to waste. No matter if I'm on BRD, a healer, or even a tank. There's no point.
    Like the story Bismarck run I had the other day where none of the 4 MELEE we had bothered to LB3 the Cortana. Duty ended and the lb3, which we had had for a while, went to complete waste. But that's neither here, nor there, and off-topic.

    Back to the thread topic! OP, Bard is a stronger version of an Archer--they will use the majority of the same skills except for any cross-class skills you may have added that weren't from pugilist and lancer. I see that you're only level 34, so you still have a ways to go with regards to leveling Bard.

    If you get further into leveling and still dislike Bard, then you are more than welcome to change to another job. The beauty of FFXIV is that it doesn't lock you into just one job! But I really hope that you grow to love Bard. And don't be discouraged when you hit level 52 and learn Wanderer's Minuet! It will take getting used to, but it is not as game-breaking, or as job-breaking, as a lot of people make it out to be.

    This is coming from someone who main's BRD, and started out the game as a BRD, and who hates WM when she first learned it long ago. Give bard a shot, and give it some love!
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