Unwanted, unfortunate, and unheard community

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Isn't PVP getting all new gearsets and most likely 3 new mounts? Hardly a ignored community.

We have gotten new gearsets at the start of Heavensward, in 3.25, and now finally in 3.5, while PvE content has gotten gear every patch.

We have gotten 2 new Frontlines modes, one of which is far less popular even if newer, and only finally in 3.5 are we getting a 3 year long request answered, and THAT'S only because SE wants to test it out for a future idea.
There were originally supposed to be 3 Feast maps. . . we're only finally getting a second one now at the end of Heavensward.
They said they were going to increase magic resistance on ice in Shatter, we communicated we did not like that change. . . we were never acknowledged on that, and the change went through.
They said they're going to disable chat in the Feast, without reason why. We have LOUDLY communicated we don't want this change, and even now, 1 week left before it happens, we've still gotten absolutely no response on the matter. . . This is in sharp contrast to non-PvPers being answered within 10 days after complaining about not being able to get a minion designed as a reward for the top 10 in the Feast.

It's not about what they give us, however little that often is. It's about how little they communicate, or even acknowledge our feedback even when they so frequently say "Give us your feedback via the Forums!"

[jameseoakes]

We have gotten new gearsets at the start of Heavensward, in 3.25, and now finally in 3.5, while PvE content has gotten gear every patch.

We have gotten 2 new Frontlines modes, one of which is far less popular even if newer, and only finally in 3.5 are we getting a 3 year long request answered, and THAT'S only because SE wants to test it out for a future idea.
There were originally supposed to be 3 Feast maps. . . we're only finally getting a second one now at the end of Heavensward.
They said they were going to increase magic resistance on ice in Shatter, we communicated we did not like that change. . . we were never acknowledged on that, and the change went through.
They said they're going to disable chat in the Feast, without reason why. We have LOUDLY communicated we don't want this change, and even now, 1 week left before it happens, we've still gotten absolutely no response on the matter. . . This is in sharp contrast to non-PvPers being answered within 10 days after complaining about not being able to get a minion designed as a reward for the top 10 in the Feast.

It's not about what they give us, however little that often is. It's about how little they communicate, or even acknowledge our feedback even when they so frequently say "Give us your feedback via the Forums!"

So as much gear as the raiders then, just on a more erratic time scale with some glamour gear thrown in. That's a lot of support, just badly spaced out.
I'll agree that not giving a statement on the chat removal is poor.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I should note, last time we got gear, it was i205, and is still the highest gear we can get. Popular thought is the Garo gear will be i215, 220 at the most, which still makes it effectively useless for anything other than glamour. And while our gear gets synced down to i180 in PvP anyways, there's still something wrong with the gear we're allowed to get via our favorite in-game activity to be an entire patch or two behind in item level. I mean, could you imagine raiders running Creator Savage for 230-240 gear still?

[jameseoakes]

I should note, last time we got gear, it was i205, and is still the highest gear we can get. Popular thought is the Garo gear will be i215, 220 at the most, which still makes it effectively useless for anything other than glamour. And while our gear gets synced down to i180 in PvP anyways, there's still something wrong with the gear we're allowed to get via our favourite in-game activity to be an entire patch or two behind in item level. I mean, could you imagine raiders running Creator Savage for 230-240 gear still?

I think that's why they give the normal stones via PVP as well, I don't think they ever wanted PVP to form part of progression.

[Chevronone]

Isn't PVP getting all new gearsets and most likely 3 new mounts? Hardly a ignored community.

First event that involves PvP since the inception of this game...oh ya, hardly ignored

[Mirch]

[kensatsu]

jameseoakes : the 180 and 205 pvp set is ugly, pvp can give some pvp bis mixed with pve stuff , so the pvp set is barely for glamour, if you think ugly glamour set is a good reward, and a good support for the pvp.
If the pvp set don't have any real purpose exept glamour, it need to be Nice looking

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I think that's why they give the normal stones via PVP as well, I don't think they ever wanted PVP to form part of progression.

To that I ask why not? I mean, PvP is an endgame activity that requires you to effectively utilize the skills of your given job(s) well in order to achieve victory. So why not allow it to serve as an alternative progression method? No one's asking for raid-level gear, but battling for gear that's 3 patches behind isn't exactly what I'd call "progression". And while I'm glad that we do at least get tomes, what good then is an entirely separate currency for useless materia, outdated and questionably appealing gear, and a few collectable items?