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    Steering this back on track, have we still heard nothing officially from SE? If that's the case, can it maybe be addressed in a Q & A in the next Live Letter from the Producer? Will there even be a Q & A for it? PvP isn't the only thing I have questions about, but they're high up on my list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Steering this back on track, have we still heard nothing officially from SE? If that's the case, can it maybe be addressed in a Q & A in the next Live Letter from the Producer? Will there even be a Q & A for it? PvP isn't the only thing I have questions about, but they're high up on my list.
    No, radio silence on all of these topics outside of the initial announcements. I wish the live-letter was a better place to ask questions, but the game is so big and if PvP is lucky there is one question asked about it. Maybe we can be better as a community about up-voting PvP questions.
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    Count me in for making an effort to have our questions heard, though I'll admit, I'm at a loss for ideas currently.
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    Maybe it's just a numbers thing with the chat. Maybe they are just tired of the reports for harassment and feel like removing chat will make the harassment numbers look better in some report for some investor. I don't know. PvP will always be largely ignored in this game. IMO SE has no idea how to make competitive pvp content. Like with the grand company requirement. We let them know in the first week that it was a bad idea. 3 years later the change. I honestly think it was because removing the restriction contradicted the story and SE is all about the story.

    Really the only story you need is "They have it, we want it, go get it." Or a variation there of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravton View Post
    I honestly think it was because removing the restriction contradicted the story and SE is all about the story.

    Really the only story you need is "They have it, we want it, go get it." Or a variation there of.
    They removed restriction cause 4.0 will get us a "big pvp update" where fc restriction wouldn't work.
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    Devs and/or community reps seem to be a bit active on the forums lately. Please take a moment to read the topic here and offer us some kind of answer, or at least, acknowledgement.
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    Not quite. In an interview not too long ago, Yoshi P clarified that the reasons for keeping/removing it were not story or lore based, and that his concerns lay with the potential problems that might arise after removing the restriction, mostly ones of a moral nature.
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    I should note, last time we got gear, it was i205, and is still the highest gear we can get. Popular thought is the Garo gear will be i215, 220 at the most, which still makes it effectively useless for anything other than glamour. And while our gear gets synced down to i180 in PvP anyways, there's still something wrong with the gear we're allowed to get via our favorite in-game activity to be an entire patch or two behind in item level. I mean, could you imagine raiders running Creator Savage for 230-240 gear still?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    I should note, last time we got gear, it was i205, and is still the highest gear we can get. Popular thought is the Garo gear will be i215, 220 at the most, which still makes it effectively useless for anything other than glamour. And while our gear gets synced down to i180 in PvP anyways, there's still something wrong with the gear we're allowed to get via our favourite in-game activity to be an entire patch or two behind in item level. I mean, could you imagine raiders running Creator Savage for 230-240 gear still?
    I think that's why they give the normal stones via PVP as well, I don't think they ever wanted PVP to form part of progression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    I think that's why they give the normal stones via PVP as well, I don't think they ever wanted PVP to form part of progression.
    To that I ask why not? I mean, PvP is an endgame activity that requires you to effectively utilize the skills of your given job(s) well in order to achieve victory. So why not allow it to serve as an alternative progression method? No one's asking for raid-level gear, but battling for gear that's 3 patches behind isn't exactly what I'd call "progression". And while I'm glad that we do at least get tomes, what good then is an entirely separate currency for useless materia, outdated and questionably appealing gear, and a few collectable items?
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