Unwanted, unfortunate, and unheard community

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I won't deny that there are in fact toxic players, but even the ones who aren't see both issues at large in that disabling a means of communication if only to punish or mitigate misuse will do more harm than good, and that by and large the PvP community goes unanswered or even ignored at length. Regardless of your stance on these issues, they are undeniable truths that speak very ill of the way the community is handled.

It took 3 years of begging, suggesting, and pleading to finally get the means to duel and soon, GC restrictions lifted. Angry minion collectors were answered in a less than 2 weeks. Sure, the scale of the changes are vastly different, but it's a matter of one community within the game having their complaints actually answered vs another barely getting anything; content, changes, or even explanations of said changes. Would this be okay if it were any other community in the game? Why is it okay for just PvPers to get such treatment?

[kensatsu]

It's sure if the pvp is the last thing where players is heard, i can understand the pvp community is little but it will stay little forever if it's all time the last content to get something.
3 years for the GC restriction removed, finaly.
And no it's not ok. PVP is too much the last focus, earing for top 10 is just too low for replacement of the minion that will be aviable for everyone after. Also i don't understand why crying for a minion and not for the gear... everything in the game like glamour, mount, minion is collectable item. for me it don't make any sense, anything can be a limited reward.

[SuperZay]

Also i don't understand why crying for a minion and not for the gear... everything in the game like glamour, mount, minion is collectable item. for me it don't make any sense, anything can be a limited reward.

Because Top 100 gear was so ugly nobody cared about it.

[Moonlite]

Angry minion collectors were answered in a less than 2 weeks. Sure, the scale of the changes are vastly different, but it's a matter of one community within the game having their complaints actually answered vs another barely getting anything; content, changes, or even explanations of said changes. Would this be okay if it were any other community in the game? Why is it okay for just PvPers to get such treatment?

Well they have answered PvPers in the past about dueling and GC restrictions. It was just no followed by a questionable excuse. The minion people got a yes but no real answer yet.

Due to the short nature of matches, current PvE tools to regulate players behavior don't work. Now if this was a few other companies we would have gotten a stat like X% of all games lead to a GM complaint. Or X% of players never do more then 10 matches in feast.

Also it is obvious that SE is running this game with as little staff as possible. And while raids have just as low a population participation, they make for good promo and selling videos. If the manpower was available people have had better options. This has got to be the easiest and cheapest fix. A more reasonable choice would be the first three tiers of ranking with no chat. But that comes back to not as easy and cheap.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I'm not inclined to believe it's a lack of resources or staff that perpetuates this problem. However if that were the case, it'd at least be nice to know. But that's just it; we're barely told anything. A few players offered the far more practical solution of disabling chat for players that abuse it, as a light penalty (which, in hopes would make them think twice about their actions/words and perhaps not repeat them in the future), but with no prior word or warning, we're hit with a blanket fix to the issue. There are indeed easier and cheaper ways to fix this, and many have been expressed, but as of yet, with no correspondence from SE, we're left to assume the change WILL happen despite any input from us. And that will be a very bad thing for all.

Because if they can just do that with PvP, who or what is next?

[kensatsu]

Yep what is the next, to me pvp got this because of the toxicity, off course PVE is toxic too, so SE should decide of the destruction of the chat too ? We can need to speak of strategie in both PVP like PVE. The fact it happen to the pvp is to me this speculation, because the pvp community is small, when you encounter a behavior, you may encounter him a lot in your next queue, and maybe lead to report flood to GM.
It don't happen in pve because if you encounter someone toxic, you requeue you don't encounter the same players, PVE is a large community, i encounter sometimes raging behavior in pve, but i don't see one in all the run.
It certainly result a high report ratio in pvp.
It's why automated message should be send to behavior when them got reported too much instead of killing the chat. Or even doing penalty like one day without be able to queue for pvp. But also if SE do that, players would not abuse of this system ?
There is not confidence, when some players is behavior, when some players is also cheating in premade feast, when you know any system can be easily abused, It's all speculation because SE don't say we do this because of the toxicity.
But i still think it's the case, when i see we don't got GC restriction din't get removed earlier becaue SE guess there will be more cheating.

[Dimitrii]

Because Top 100 gear was so ugly nobody cared about it.

It really was. Though this mount imo is an even worse reward. At least with the gear set you can show it off wherever you go which is kind of the whole point in these limited rewards. Not like the mount runs any faster than existing mounts.

[Zensho]

It really was. Though this mount imo is an even worse reward. At least with the gear set you can show it off wherever you go which is kind of the whole point in these limited rewards. Not like the mount runs any faster than existing mounts.

But I want to sit on it in Idylshire afk all day, and be one of two ppl on my world that has is so I can flex my greatness and show my everyone how huge my E pean is. =P

[TiramisuMacaron]

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Do you have data to back up this claim? If you have records to GM accounts and databases, I would love to see them. The community is really small too, can you show me that the reports are a majority unique new reports in this database, and not just the same repeat offenders/reporters? SE hasn't said anything, and that's the point of this thread.

Using my own experiences, probably 1000+ matches at this point. I have been out of line in maybe 1-2% of them, and have seen other people be out of line in maybe 5% of them. Of that 5%, I would say 90% are repeat offenders. I can't say my PvE data varies much. It is probably worse, seeing that I've basically stopped doing things outside of my FC/static because of peoples ignorance or rude "me above everyone" behaviour.

I'm sorry that it seems you have had a majority of bad experiences in feast, can you tell me how many matches you have played? I would like some of your personal data, or the access to the databases you have seem to have seen.