Should the ToS be updated to allow botting?

[Vnolan]

"People are speeding anyway, why not take away speed limits so not only a select few can benefit from driving faster?"

This request doesnt make sense, and I'm tempted to believe its sarcasm. They may not be enforcing it strongly enough, but that doesn't mean it should be allowed. Report the people you know of that are doing it so that maybe it CAN be enforced better.

No. Also, please report the botters every time.

I have been reporting. I have not noticed the slightest change. This means one of a few things:
1. They are unable to detect the bot
2. The response time is in the weeks
3. They have no intention of enforcing it or don't view it as against the ToS
4. The report system is broken and they have not been receiving any reports
5. The punishment is nothing more than a warning

The system in place does not help. You are given no record of your reports and no status on the reports. It could be they review them instantly, but it could also be they ignore them unless it involves RMT.

This isn't about RMT. As you've seen, they do enforce the rules against RMT botting.

As an example, Tailfeather around 8:00 AM Eorzean time. Watch as the bots zone in, perform some conversions and move to the same spot before flying away. Doesn't matter where they zone in, it's always the same spot.

[TiaHariberux3]

This is beyond unhelpful. Do we want to have a discussion here, or just say random things? I guess I can join in.

Chocolate covered Lalafells.

Well tbh what he said is true that there are top raiders who bot etc. (alot imo I would say) but we have that rule not calling names and such.

[vp_cmc]

I've never understood this. Why get a bot to essentially play a game for you? Doesn't that take all of the meaning out of it?

Because some activities are not fun! Gathering shards for example. No way I must gather them myself. And I buy it from a marketboard, probably from bots. And I don't care what they do with my gil, because they save my time. I don't bot myself of course.

[Miste]

It's the same damn thing as RMT.

No...buying game time tokens with in-game gil from SE isn't the same. Since the profits of it go to SE which is where all profits from their game should go; not to some third party RMT trying to exploit a game they do not own to make a profit.

As for the botting honestly they do need to do something about it. RMT use bots that speed hack across maps and some players use gather bots which in the past I have reported gather bots and speed hackers and nothing is ever done. I even have video proof of a player speed hacking lol their character is still around even though many people caught them and reported them for speed hacking.

I mean this gets you to believe they just don't care to ban them so I don't know. All of the reports I made did nothing even though I was 99% sure someone was botting and 100% sure of that speed hacker before even sending a report. Now I just ignore it and I don't report anything anymore since it seems to be a waste of effort/time. I just go about playing and having my own fun because in the end only SE has any power to do anything and so far it seems not many bots get banned since a lot of the gatherer bots I've reported are still around a year or two later.

[Rawrz]

I saw a bot in Northern Thanalan, that would say "Not everyone is a bot. Stop being so paranoid. " If you mentioned the word bot every after every 5 mins or so. Talk about committed player or crazy bot. Lmao. Bots are really quick to close trade requests, so fast that you get an error, even when they aren't set to busy.

[Khanscott]

Botting is all fun and games until you see 50,000+ clusters being sold by random letter name retainers for less than the respective shards are being sold for by retainers with pronouncible names. That said, you want to gather with minimal effort, buy some Ventures.

[Kaurie]

Well tbh what he said is true that there are top raiders who bot etc. (alot imo I would say) but we have that rule not calling names and such.

Saying "top raiders" is completely useless, as it adds no context. In what way do you think that 'top raiders' are botting?

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[MaikoRaines]

Legalizing botting? No way! The kid I pay to farm materials for me on my account would be out of a job so fast... /sarcasm

[Raikki]

Buying gil alone is not the same thing as using in game currency to buy more sub time. So no, not the same thing.

I don't think you understand how the tokens work. The game time tokens are purchased for real money first before being sold for game money. That's the definition of buying gil.

[FabricioRF]

I have been reporting. I have not noticed the slightest change. This means one of a few things:
1. They are unable to detect the bot
2. The response time is in the weeks
3. They have no intention of enforcing it or don't view it as against the ToS
4. The report system is broken and they have not been receiving any reports
5. The punishment is nothing more than a warning

or maybe: 6. Money talk$$$