Should the ToS be updated to allow botting?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

If OP feels like botting should be a thing because botters are never punished, then why is he trying to justify botting so much? Go bot yourself and see how long it goes for. What do you got to lose?

[Lone-wolfe-02]

OP if you think they aren't punished then why not go ahead and use them yourself?, you clearly want to use them so what's stopping you.

[Vidu]

...can someone explain to me btw how botting gets people their A12S kills? OP keeps brining that up (how botters are having the A12-mount) but I fail to see the connection? Is he assuming that they bought their kills? With gil earned by using bots? That sounds extremly ridicolous... but I cant see how using a bot in that fight would be any good..

[TiaHariberux3]

...can someone explain to me btw how botting gets people their A12S kills? OP keeps brining that up (how botters are having the A12-mount) but I fail to see the connection? Is he assuming that they bought their kills? With gil earned by using bots? That sounds extremly ridicolous... but I cant see how using a bot in that fight would be any good..

Well extremely ridiculous? Not really there are ppl who bot gil to buy runs but maybe OP means the "no clip" etc stuff that are included in most bots I can remember players used it in pvp to be under the ground and just attack while arent being able to be attacked by others.

[HyoMinPark]

On phone and it's not letting me quote for some dumb reason.

@SilkaN - I did read your post, but I guess I misunderstood your intent behind it. I have always been of the mindset of, if something is considered a hassle to me, and is not a necessity (to use an example from FFXIV: gathering--optional activity, optional classes to level, and not entirely necessary to in-game progression), then I just don't do it. I don't use third-party services to do things for me. I understand people have different mindsets from myself. Doesn't mean that I'm still not baffled by them. Just as I am baffled by people in real life that don't want to put in any effort in life to earn things, be it money or whatever.

Just because I fail to understand a mindset, in my opinion, I still don't think that makes me naive.

[Zojha]

I have always been of the mindset of, if something is considered a hassle to me, and is not a necessity, then I just don't do it.

Believe it or not - without rewards in the mix, just about everyone has that mindset.

The issue stems from the fact that the content comes with rewards. This is what causes a problem for people: They want the goal but they do not want the way. So ideally, they'd like the way to be done by someone else and come back at the end. That's a notion that's easy to relate to when you consider chores in real life: Washing the dishes, cleaning the rooms, dusting the cupboards, washing the clothes, buying groceries etc. Most people would "love" to skip those and have a clean flat/clothes/dishes anyway, so if a robot or wizard comes along to do just that for them, they'd gladly take the option (Though I'd be sceptical of wizards!).

That mindset isn't even an issue in single-player games. I haven't seen a single person complaining about people using the console in skyrim to skip dungeon parts or create 99 iron bars out of nowhere for some crafting. If they don't like the process, they can just skip it, who cares?

In multiplayer games however, that's an issue, because it affects people and usually negatively. That's why cheats are usually disabled in multiplayer - bots included.

[BakaChin]

If people are botting on their mains, then it's not being enforced. Why not update the ToS so that not only a select few benefit from it?

I reaaaaally don't understand why people would even look at questioning something like this...

I apologise in advance for being insensitive but I just want to make a clear point. This line of questioning goes on the same line of "Should we just allow bullying to happen?" There are people getting victimized each and every day so should we just accept that this is the norm? Again I apologise for the nature of the my example but you really do need to see the ignorance in the OP's question itself.

[FinaSel]

OP, you are doing nothing but making yourself look terrible.
This idea is horrible and has no merit.
I recommend quitting while you still can.

Unless of course you are trying to troll us with these threads.
In that case, I commend you. You've already elicited 9 pages from us.

Let's see if we can get to 30 pages like some other nonsense threads!

[Cinno]

Let's see if we can get to 30 pages like some other nonsense threads!

I'd rather we didn't.