Which Tank is Better Off MT?

[Ilan]

I currently have WAR dan DRK at Lv. 60, and my Lv. 57 PLD is going to be there as well.

Just curious what role should I assume in case of three/two men tank scenario if I were to play one or the other. What I currently certain is that WAR will always be the best OT as its best ability can only be unlocked in Deliverance (Triple Fell Cleaves FTW). I need more opinion about DRK/PLD.

Also, if you have two WARs at one run, which one should MT? I always think it's the best geared since they don't require as much heals but they can be a better OT too.

Please enlighten me,

Michael

What are we talking about? Savage raids, EX primals or just the usual DF 8-24 player stuff?

For savage and EX primals its what Lambdafish wrote, for the DF stuff its ----> everyone can do everything since its all so easy that it doesn't matter at all.

[bounddreamer]

Actually, the better geared warrior should be the OT, as long as the other one can hold aggro. I can do more damage than other warriors who are still in 250 or lower gear.

[Msugi]

Actually, the better geared warrior should be the OT, as long as the other one can hold aggro. I can do more damage than other warriors who are still in 250 or lower gear.

I was thinking about this too when I questioned the WAR/WAR scenario. But after reading and replying some posts I suddenly realize that we play as a team here, so if by you MTing = reducing the stress on the healers = healers have more uptime on the target will compensate the additional damage you lost. So I guess both positions should be okay as long as we communicate it (like letting the healers know if you turn on deliverance so they can focus on healing you more than dpsing or turning hallowed ground on so they can burn the boss)

Even though DF stuff are almost guaranteed wins, but it sure is nice to finish it faster every time. Good practice for high-level play for the very least lol

[bounddreamer]

Msugi, I've done it both ways. A10N, I've off tanked when the other guy looked at me and said "want to off tank? You'll do more damage." I've also main tanked when the other guy said "hmm, you have more HP and you're pulling threat off me in Deliverance."

I've also been MT and OT in A12N in similar situations. One time the other tank handed me MT reins after a wipe and with my HP pool and use of cooldowns I gave the healers an easier job of it.

It goes both ways but communication and cooperation are key.

[FinalWolf]

All of them. The best Mt is a meta made by raiders.

[aleph_null]

All of them. The best Mt is a meta made by raiders.

This is like saying that gravity is a meta made by Newton.

[RizenSaga]

This is like saying that gravity is a meta made by Newton.

LOL. Gravity is just a meta made by Newton. Before him it was Aristotle who believed everything was fixed. Then it was Newton and gravity(force pulls mass towards mass). Einstein's General Relativity theory says that there is no force called gravity — that there is a warping of spacetime created by the presence of mass, and that objects are just led through the path of least resistance through this warped spacetime. So um you just referenced an old Meta made by some of the old elite raiders, sorry Brah.

[aleph_null]

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I meant saying that best composition is just a meta made by raiders is pointless, since that's a meta for a good reason (potentially the most optimal for the raid tier) and that it changes over time. If the person I quoted thought that there was no such thing as best MT or best composition in a raid tier then he's just being delusional.

A bit off topic but cmiiw isn't gravity defined as the effect caused by spacetime curvature? As in it's not a force anymore but that's still called gravity. I'm bad at physics lmao.

Interesting how NA EU is the opposite of jp standards. War can still put out high damage if it is the Main Tank by stance dancing, while Paladin can go in sword oath and utilize it's max dps. In my opinion War should always be MT and DRK/PLD Off tank.

Eh no even in jp pugs usually pld/drk pulls and tanks the boss most of the time unless there's a forced tank swap. If you're talking about statics most of the optimized runs have wars pull followed by a tank swap with both tanks out of tank stance.

[RizenSaga]

I meant saying that best composition is just a meta made by raiders is pointless, since that's a meta for a good reason (potentially the most optimal for the raid tier) and that it changes over time. If the person I quoted thought that there was no such thing as best MT or best composition in a raid tier then he's just being delusional.

A bit off topic but cmiiw isn't gravity defined as the effect caused by spacetime curvature? As in it's not a force anymore but that's still called gravity. I'm bad at physics lmao.

I know what you meant and 100% agree with your opinion.
Yeah you are right on the definition, but the current definition of gravity was made by Newton then changed to fit Einsteins Theory of relativity. Gravity doesn't change; it's what it is, but the word- the definition did. So Einstein literally shattered Newtons definition (Meta) just as Newton shattered Aristotle's beliefs.

I know I was being difficult and using the definition and how it changed and not at all how you meant it. I love Irony and even though I know what you meant I couldn't resist because most people just take something clever like what you said and run with it.

[TenZer0]

All of them. The best Mt is a meta made by raiders.

This! This right here!