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  1. #1
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    Wishlist of Changes To the Game

    Hello everyone, as everyone knows many people are displeased about certain aspects of the game, or even they wish they add certain things to the game.

    Its a constant fuel of arguing on my Novice Network. So I am not the 1st one to come with this idea, but I think, that if we follow certain sidelines similar to how they ask us for the Letter of the Producer Letters we can come with enough weight to make SE realize we want change or they doing something right.

    Also I plan to post this same thread translated to the other regions after 2 weeks or so, with the most voted up ideas and vice versa.

    The point of this tread is to unite our community, so on the same aspect if you have an argument agaitsn someone else's idea please make a thread to argue both your points.

    So please post one thing you would like to see added, or removed from the game.
    If you like the idea please thumbs up.
    On a similar note to how the Japanese Forums do stuff, please make sure your idea is different from one already posted, but if you feel the difference is big, keep the Quoting to a max of 2.

    And lastly be short and concise, and make your friends who dont usually use the forums to do it. Since what we want is to make developers to also interact with us, and I think if we show the desire, they will also interact more with us.


    EDIT: Ok guys, we are getting a bit convoluted, I understand the fervor we have for the game, but the point is one idea per reply, that way we can vote in an orderly manner, if you put several on one post, it becomes a bit harder so please stick to one Idea per reply.
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    Last edited by Lavinia; 11-17-2016 at 11:40 AM.

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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    While I Love MCH and gaus barrel; I hate Bard and wanderer's minuet. So much to the point I dont actually play bard anymore, and that was my main through ARR. Bard was losely set up like Ranger, from my experiences, and that class/job was always highly mobile; Wanderer's Minuet basically said "Mch is awesome, lets make bard follow suite...so what if it breaks the playstyle?"
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    "Welcome to the ranks of the blue mages. However, at this moment you are but an empty vessel--a base creature, weaker than the most ordinary mortal. A blue mage must wrest her strength and vitality from her enemies. Show me your hunger for unrivaled power! This is the only guidance I shall give you."
    ~ Final Fantasy XI Treasures of Aht Urhgan

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    I have been playing xi for years, xiv since alpha, i've been on board with SE for years litterally.

    There are many things that can be better but i dont think SE will change anything. This game is already in almost maintenance mode. The whole pattern|System they put in place is based on weekly lockout content to keep people busy till the next patch.

    Now there are some things i'd like to point out.

    - This is a game that is based on multiclass, almost no one plays a single class, so the lockouts and forcing people to play by developers choice instead of player pace (even if WoW and other similar games accept the same system) is really bad in my opinion.

    A simple example is it'll take 7 weeks for you to get the Shire weapon for your "main" class lets say. That is an insane amount of time for 1 weapon, now if you want to get the Shire weapon for all your classes because you like to play a lot of different roles, this becomes simply idiotic. You wont be able to gear up your classes by the time an update hits and newer items come out.

    That said im all against a forced gameplay. Everyone should be allowed to play the game at its own pace. Locking content out or putting timers is the worse thing ever introduced in Final Fantasy. But due to $$ im pretty sure it wont change

    - Lack of vision on accomplishment. There is litterally no long term accomplishment. This always was the biggest part on an MMo. XIV at the moment is just grind grind grind to do what? Grind again.
    Why do you bother to gather gear, also on another note 99% of the gear is extremely skippable and useless, just get the tomestone gear and you are pretty much done, you wont even need to do Savage.

    Now nobody see the irony here? It is extremely easy to gear yourself up to a point you run out of content even before playing that content because the gear itself will be old so fast that you dont even bother to grab it. Just hit 60 go for the tomestone gear alternating with crafted and alexander. No need for savage.

    so to me there is really a lack of imagination, fantasy, creativity and goal from the dev team. You need to keep the playerbase busy untill the next content come, but not in a grindy/repetitive way. You need to give out enough content to not have players stuck into a repetitive pattern loop.

    How do you do this? Well im pretty sure you can find some time to sit around a table wth all the developers and find something more elegant that what im about to suggest, this is just the first thing it came out on my mind: increase drastically the number of floors on Palace of the dead. People tend to desire and want to complete something, so since the maps are procedurally generated and you have that system already in place, add way more rewards, make this system (that i personally consider great, infact 2 years ago i asked something exactly like this to be implemented, i was suprirsed they did) with more longevity.

    If you dont have the manpower to create every single boss different mechanic, just increase the difficulty based on hp/mp, damage dealt, a sort of buffed bosses.

    I find quite annoying the fact that at 2 days after release the 200 floor was already beaten, see what i mean? SE is not creating longevity, now they let you spam that thing over and over and over and over.

    These are pretty much the problems i have with this game. I took a break of 1 year, came back and resubbed and Frankly i am already bored after 1 week, nothing changed, i wish i didnt re sub. It is always the same repetitive boring pattern over and over trough years, the only new and great thing they have done was Palace of the dead, which they are already throwing away by letting people run out of content and completing it in few hours.

    You want to avoid the game to die? get your dev team to develop a system about longevity. Enough with this short term farming grinding weekly lockout crap.
    I'd sub for a whole year if you give players longevity.

    The discussion can be very long but i think i've explained enough my points, thats all i ask and that is what i believe to be the huge problem this game has.
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    I've been waiting for a thread like this. Have been considering making one myself....

    But literally what this guy said:

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkB View Post
    I have been playing xi for years, xiv since alpha, i've been on board with SE for years litterally.

    There are many things that can be better but i dont think SE will change anything. This game is already in almost maintenance mode. The whole pattern|System they put in place is based on weekly lockout content to keep people busy till the next patch.

    Now there are some things i'd like to point out.

    - This is a game that is based on multiclass, almost no one plays a single class, so the lockouts and forcing people to play by developers choice instead of player pace (even if WoW and other similar games accept the same system) is really bad in my opinion.

    A simple example is it'll take 7 weeks for you to get the Shire weapon for your "main" class lets say. That is an insane amount of time for 1 weapon, now if you want to get the Shire weapon for all your classes because you like to play a lot of different roles, this becomes simply idiotic. You wont be able to gear up your classes by the time an update hits and newer items come out.

    That said im all against a forced gameplay. Everyone should be allowed to play the game at its own pace. Locking content out or putting timers is the worse thing ever introduced in Final Fantasy. But due to $$ im pretty sure it wont change

    - Lack of vision on accomplishment. There is litterally no long term accomplishment. This always was the biggest part on an MMo. XIV at the moment is just grind grind grind to do what? Grind again.

    Now nobody see the irony here? It is extremely easy to gear yourself up to a point you run out of content even before playing that content because the gear itself will be old so fast that you dont even bother to grab it. Just hit 60 go for the tomestone gear alternating with crafted and alexander. No need for savage.

    My current approach is to not play XIV at all until level 99 cap.

    Support it regularly by keeping a every other 45 day period subscription to maintain my free company house...(seeing as content such as diadem is locked behind FC housing...)

    Then get all the expansions at a discounted price, get item level 2334532255 in 7 weeks, and go plow through all the "old" dungeons and raids solo or in a light party with friends in a couple of weeks.

    This way its like a giant "MSORPG" Massive Single-player Online Role Playing Game.

    Much more fun for someone like me.

    I only work 20 hours a week, and the rest is all free time. Since i live alone, i keep my place clean, so spend even less time having to do insane amount of cleaning after kids or a spouse...

    Its headahe free. Why spend weeks and weeks farming tomes with random people or being forced into a schedule to raid/experience content, just to do it over and over again.

    I'd rather experience it all on my own pace.



    For people like me, and probably many others...

    Here are some of my ideas for change that i think would work for more people:

    These are in random order.

    -Housing overhaul
    I mean seriously
    1st off, there should be free personal housing somewhere. Why are players paying **millions** of gil for a giant piece of glamour?


    2nd: Personal housing, when you add a desk with a drawer, you are granted item storage.

    Why isnt this a thing? I hear of 15 year old video games with this. XIV seems outdated with this glamour style housing system. If anyone isnt aware Final Fantasy XI has the Orchestrian system...


    -Make better use of item level sync, and level sync

    Item level sync could be used to breathe life into old/any/new content.

    There are too many items in this game, with almost only 1 or 2 ways to obtain them. Makes no sense.

    This content could grant materia, gil, crafting items, tools, gear, all kinds of things. For better use of this, and a true *huge* Massively Multiplayer Online game, see suggestion "Give purpose to story fights'

    Level sync could be good for helping people with fights, leves for example, or whatever. It just should be a thing cause I cant imagine its too difficult to implement.



    -Gold Saucer Battle Square
    Helps players level, fun duo PvP, end game rewards
    There should be a Battle Square in the gold saucer.

    The Battle Square would be based upon your level. Similar to how Deep Dungeon works, but ...

    1 vs 1 fights
    1 vs 4 fights
    1 vs 8 fights
    1 vs boss fights

    They would increase the values of the enemies stats, or simply add new enemies with each patch. Not hard to do, just have to streamline it like they do with the dungeons.

    The 1 vs 1 could be PvP type duel. Granting MGP and wolf marks

    The 1 vs 4 could be for leveling, each with MGP reward and then a certain amount of experience points based on your level.

    The 1 vs 8 fight could grant items for "relic" weapon upgrades instead of having to do 500 dungeons or 1,000 FATEs for every single upgrade.... Allowing the player to have options instead of just doing the same thing over and over and over.

    1 vs 8 could grant other rewards like tomes

    1 vs boss could grant tomes, MGP, items for relics, old weekly lock out upgrade items, random pieces of gear, gil, materia, seals, tomes, just about anything. Variety.



    -Return all "old" tomes (Mythology, Lore, Philosophy, Soldiery etc.)
    Making items purchasable relative to that specific tome, and possibly some more.
    What this accomplishes is it restores a bit of value to older dungeons.

    For example, the wanderer's palace and Amdapor would grant 100 Philosophy, and like 40 Mythology.

    How?
    By restoring the crafted items, such as coke or potash, back to the Tome merchant, and out of the Grand Company. Honestly, as they continue to shove tome items into the Grand Company list, those items become increasingly imbalanced.

    For example a drop from Sastasha gives what, 50 GC seals? Yet the item level for the item level 22 Storm Pirates Sword costs 1,060 seals? That would take you forever. Because they have left that item balanced to what it was when it was released. Which back then you could turn in say 3-4 pieces of gear at level 22 to obtain it with the seals you'd be rewarded, but they keep creating a horrible imbalance, cause they want the high level dungeons at level cap to grant 1,300 seals or so, and keep lowering the reward for lower level dungeons. Its really really bad to anyone who has been paying attention.

    To explain, Grand Company gear, that is supposed to be used as an option for leveling gear, is extremely over priced in comparison to a person leveling a job. I can only see it as "over priced glamour" now..

    They could also place drops as purchased items from said dungeons.

    An example would be buying Bloody Lance Head, which is used to craft the Relic item. Purchased with say 1,000 or what have you Philosophy tomes.

    Another example is buying say HQ Tailor Made Eel pie with Poetics.

    They could then further this by allowing certain items to be purchased with "old" tomes such a newer item.

    This would breathe new life back into "old" content, and keep the variety of dungeons high, for fun.

    They could also allow lower amounts for people who want to solo it. Like 100 tomes level sycned, 400 tomes item level sync, then 30 tomes solo, or what have you.


    -Make end game gear customizeable
    Materia slots, and/or a "upgrade" tree.
    End game players spend so much time upgrading gear, only to toss it with the next patch.

    (Note: the following suggestion will not replace crafted gear. Only materia can be obtained, not the enhanced item level from crafted gear. Just materia can be obtained from "old" raids at item level sync.)

    They then spend gil on crafted items, and "sell runs/clears" to cover the costs of these items, crafted gear, and materia melds. All the while, wait each week for the next chance at gear again, most of the time doing nothing at all until then. Instead they could grant Materia rewards to the previous raid system, at item level sync. This way it strengthens the raid group, encourages them to return to old raids and breathes life back into old raids. (For example a Mhachi Matter could drop for every party member.)

    They could even create an "upgrade" tree for raid gear.

    For example, if you get a body piece from a specific piece of content, you like the stats. WHM body with DET and PIE for example. Works well with your set up. Instead of tossing that piece, and needing an entirely new "Best in slot" set up, the player could be asked to obtain the desired piece of gear, the new piece of gear from the next raid, then some kind of catalyst which turns the old piece of raid gear with the desired stats into the item level equivalent as the most recent.

    To be more clear, a 210 body piece you liked, after obtaining the 270 body piece, you could upgrade the 210 piece into a 270 piece using a catalyst. The Catalyst could be obtained by say, doing a number of things or something more challenging. Like "clear turn 5 minimum item level" whatever.



    -Give purpose to "story" fights
    The story fights such as "This little sword of mine" Paladin quest fight could easily be reused.
    All story fights from the level 30-60 Job quest fights, to even the lower level class fights, main story fights (so many, dont want spoilers so i'll not name specific ones) could be reworked **easily** with varying amounts of difficulty, from solo to full party for all kinds of fun, rewards, good stuff.

    And no i dont mean minions and hair styles.

    These could reward rare crafting items for very difficult fights, to some glamour dungeon drops at lower level difficulties. All kinds of good things. I mean seriously this is a horribly missed opportunity here.....as there are ****sooooo** many many fights they could reuse....for so many different things


    -Rewards for all jobs similar to Tank rewards
    This doesnt have to be super rewarding, but still an incentive nevertheless. Plus its a long term goal
    This can be very easy to implement.

    These are just the bases for an idea **not exact suggestion. something thats balanced. ***
    +1 VIT for tanks completing 500 High level duties
    +1 STR for melee completing 300 High level duties (or vit, or det, whatever that would keep it balanced.)
    +1 STR for melee completing 500 High level duties

    Blah blah blah, you get the idea. This doesnt have to be exact, but just the bases for an idea.


    -Solo/Light party/Full party variance fights
    Not everyone plays the same way, has the same amount of time to play, likes being forced into a "schedule"
    Playing solo should grant you tomes, playing in a light party should grant more, playing in full party, should grant the most.
    Currently there is very strict party compositions.

    Solo players who dont have to work 40 hours a week such as myself have 1 of 2 choices.
    1.Get on a schedule to wait for friends to sign in to do expert roulette, and then get on a schedule with a raid to do raids...
    2. Run dungeons with random people...

    Players who like being on a schedule, and work 40 hours, and only have set amounts of time to play, i'm sure dont want to spend their entire time playing XIV running expert roulette every chance they get and then barely, or be unable to cap tomes, or only have time just to cap tomes and not much of anything else.

    ......

    Players should have the option to do certain fights/content at different ranging levels of difficulty. Solo players should be able to do "old" fights for tomes/gear but have to spend more time doing it. This creates a bit of difficulty since youre solo, but also makes it fun, and unrestricts them from having to wait around or get stuck with random people and have to deal with "AFKers" rude people, or just simply people with different mindsets.

    Players with less time, could join larger groups and tackle things at higher difficulty to obtain greater rewards.


    -A reason to play more than 1 job
    As of right now a secondary job is locked out due to weekly lock outs. Unless you raid. (which there is still a kind of lock just not as stringent)
    That doesnt make sense.
    In 2.0, yes 2.0, you could gear a secondary job, that could be the Binding Coil of Bahamut turn 1 ready, by easily doing the relic item level 80 quest, and getting item level 70 gear. This was when item level 90 was the cap.

    Now, you cannot get a weapon unless you farm trials that is relevant to do Alexander, and gear is locked in Alexander story mode... why? Seriously.. why is Alexander story mode gear, which is 20 item levels below cap gear levels locked? Philosophy wasnt locked, why is this gear locked?

    Makes no sense.

    There should be multiple ways to obtaining 20 item levels below cap gear, and it shouldnt be locked. Thats just me though.


    -Make open world enemies stronger/give more experience points
    Reason it is the way it is now is because "easy travel." The game is more than easy enough
    With absurd item levels, unlimited chocobo/mount summoning, aetherytes, teleporting, sprinting, instant queue popping, flying mounts, etc etc. there is really no reason why enemies cant be worth while in the open world. Especially in zones outside of the immediate city.

    The game will be much more vibrant and realistic if the enemies in the open world werent such push overs. Also who wouldnt like more options for leveling.

    Give a tiny boost to enemies HP and damage dealt, and grant them the same amount of experience as a FATE would, or maybe 10% less. So people can actually level off them, who choose to level solo, or with their chocobo.

    Then... they could create things out of leveling. Like farming mobs in say Mor Dhona, or Azys Lla, could grant bonus' for a multitude of things. This is where normal level sync could come into play also.



    -Rework the animations to match the global cooldown
    I mean have you seen the way Dark Knight looks if played efficiently?
    If you play dark knight, or dragoon, and monk etc, you can see that the animations overlap each other so much so that the character looks like they are the one dying/having a seizure, more than the enemy is dying.

    Its only going to get worse as the item level reaches 2308409823 at level 99 cap.


    -Allow players to turn off the text in the middle of the screen
    Please.


    -Make glamour by "gear set" instead of "gear item"
    I am not a fan of the idea that the glamoured piece of gear is for that specific piece of gear. Many people like to play multiple jobs, ... in a game that advertises such a thing mind you.... and then like glamour (a large portion of this game afterall) but then we get restricted that our PLD AF cant be glamoured as well as our WAR AF? Should be able to glamour PLD AF to our PLD gear set, then WAR AF to the WAR gear set.

    Same goes for healers.






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    Last edited by Daniolaut; 11-17-2016 at 12:55 PM.

  5. #5
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    The ability to hold guns in both hands. I think the one handed rifle looks ridiculous.

    WM and Gauss Barrel to be moved to extremely low levels. It's not okay to completely flop your playstyle like that.

    More not-robe/dress options for healers.

    Elezen ears to emote like Miqo'te ones.

    Synchronizable emotes. I want to actually hug someone. Not just awkwardly hover back pat.
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  6. #6
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    I think you said in your OP to list just 1 thing? I can't do that :\
    • Officially supported damage meter with enhanced information (crit rate, damage to specific mobs etc.)
    • A complete revamp of the secondary stat system (remove all current stats, add
      interesting stats that augment varying playstyles)
    • Future dungeon designs that do not follow the simple linear formula
    • Future dungeons with difficulty or mechanics that engage the user
    • Future raids that are large and open, rather than queued arenas
    • Crafting changed to be more simplistic, remove crafting gear and crafting skills
    • Gathering changed to be more simplistic, remove gathering gear and gathering skills
    • Talents trees added to allow for alternative builds
    • The class -> job system embraced, rather than scrapped
    • Inventory enhancements (Glamour wallet, token wallet, dye wallet i.e. Guild Wars 2, WoW systems)
    • Graphic enhancements (no more puddle-looking textures on rock faces, more detailed textures)
    • Less focus on innovative stuff, it isn't working imo (PotD, Aquapolis, Diadem, LoV, Wondrous Tails)
    • Reduced global cooldown
    • Reduced button bloat
    • Increased dye options, ability to dye multiple aspects of armor
    • Add swimming
    • Less interaction and confirmation windows (why do we interact with that thing after Faust in A9 to get down to the boss? Are you sure you want to use this item that is only available to be used for this one purpose?)
    • More horizontal progression paths (coincide with revamped secondary stats
    • The ability to gear multiple jobs to patch-relevant gear levels at the same time
    • Removal of Enochian
    • Removal of Wanderers Minuet

    I think that is it..
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    Hmmm....

    Ok.

    1. A wardrobe system. I know its not a new idea but with Glamour being a huge thing in this game this feature would be hugely popular. Not sure how feasible technically it is but worth asking for.

    2. A more engaging end game for Crafting/Gathering. Not so much about what we can craft but how we do endgame. Just making sellable items for Rowena for tokens was dull. What I mean is something like Crafters and Gatherer having kind of a progression narratively like being involved rebuilding of the Idylshire rather than just a witness. Have some kind of measure of progression where we unlock things that help us get or craft more advanced stuff. You could also have visual progression in spots like how we had with the Moogle quests. I love the complexity and depth of crafting and gathering in this game but would love more of an actual sense of endgame to it.

    3. Duty Queuing as more than one Job. I, like many really, have more than one role. In a lot of cases when queuing for a Duty I really don't mind what role I play and really just want the quickest queue. It would be great where we could queue with different roles at the same time allowing us to fill whatever role was needed most in that prospective queue.

    I am sure I will think of more but that's what I have off the top of my head.
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  8. #8
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Better bodies, thicker thighs.

    Let us pick two jobs from which to take our cross classes and give us more variety of skills.

    Better bodies.

    Give us more grindy content. Relics are a good start because they're a long term goal and fun, but there really isn't anything else like it. Everything else in game rewards you too easily.

    Lastly and most importantly, BETTER BODIES.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 11-17-2016 at 10:09 AM.

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    Zana Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I think you said in your OP to list just 1 thing? I can't do that :\
    • Crafting changed to be more simplistic, remove crafting gear and crafting skills
    • Gathering changed to be more simplistic, remove gathering gear and gathering skills
    • Removal of Enochian
    • Removal of Wanderers Minuet

    I think that is it..
    I agree with most of your suggestions, except these, to which I disagree emphatically.
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  10. #10
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    Tyurru Irisfield
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Better and More character customization options, That is all i want.
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