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  1. #21
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    Darbodaen's Avatar
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    Ramah Darbodaen
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    A good one. Just be a good one. Those are always popular.
    If I could "like" this a billioon times I would!
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  2. #22
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    LilLemay's Avatar
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    Emily Hunter
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    A good one. Just be a good one. Those are always popular.
    nailed ittt.

    When it comes down to it for the most part it really doesn't matter what class you are, if you're bad at the class you're bad at the class. Just because you're a Warrior doesn't mean you're gonna be the best tank out there pulling ridiculous dps, just because you're a paladin doesn't mean you're invincible with all your damage mitigation, you get the idea
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  3. #23
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    WAR isn't even that hard to play, that attitude comes from when the only thing to compare it to was PLD.
    Nah, that attitude comes from when Defiance actually existed and the raids were actually in any way difficult. Now everything's faceroll so every tank is a DPS that sometimes presses their defensive CDs, leading to DRK being "harder" because it has more buttons to press. In reality, atm, all the tanks are roughly the same difficulty aka not difficult at all.
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  4. #24
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Nah, that attitude comes from when Defiance actually existed and the raids were actually in any way difficult. Now everything's faceroll so every tank is a DPS that sometimes presses their defensive CDs, leading to DRK being "harder" because it has more buttons to press. In reality, atm, all the tanks are roughly the same difficulty aka not difficult at all.
    Then try to pull out high dps in savage raids and you'll see that the difficulty of a drk is the highest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Then try to pull out high dps in savage raids and you'll see that the difficulty of a drk is the highest...
    wat

    It's hard to press oGCDs on CD? You're tanking out of Grit which means you have BW and BP so mana isn't an issue. Where exactly is the difficulty?

    e: Oh, wait, the highest. Yeah, agreed, it is ever so slightly harder since there's more buttons to press. In the current meta it's 100% just doing your DPS rotation so when one of the tanks has more DPS buttons than the others, it does require like a really really small amount of extra thought to play. But, in the grand scheme of things, I'd say that they're all relatively the same which is to say they're all braindead easy.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 12-06-2016 at 06:29 AM.

  6. #26
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    FallenWings's Avatar
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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    My main class is the hardest because I play it.

    It is also the hardest because if it wasn't; it wouldn't validate my skill and experiences being higher than yours.

    On a serious note, as far as rotations goes, tanks have always been 'easy'. Staying in tank stance and pressing fewer buttons in coil has never been any more difficult than it is now. It's just a false perception of difficulty stemming from the tank anxiety that plagues the role.






    Looking at OGCD's and MP? Timing Berserk and Stacks? Easy.

    The truly hardest class is PLD.

    Because you're fighting the monotony and simplicity of the class. And that is the hardest, most soul sucking hurdle you'll ever face.
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    Last edited by FallenWings; 12-06-2016 at 08:38 AM.

  7. #27
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    wat

    It's hard to press oGCDs on CD? You're tanking out of Grit which means you have BW and BP so mana isn't an issue. Where exactly is the difficulty?

    e: Oh, wait, the highest. Yeah, agreed, it is ever so slightly harder since there's more buttons to press. In the current meta it's 100% just doing your DPS rotation so when one of the tanks has more DPS buttons than the others, it does require like a really really small amount of extra thought to play. But, in the grand scheme of things, I'd say that they're all relatively the same which is to say they're all braindead easy.
    I never said its completly impossible hard but for most people it is pretty hard to play drk properly and these cases are warrior and pala way easier to play. Drk needs a bit more attention and effort then the other two if you want to dps and tank at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  8. #28
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    But, in the grand scheme of things, I'd say that they're all relatively the same which is to say they're all braindead easy.
    You can make any job's target dummy rotation into muscle memory in a couple of weeks. That doesn't mean that the job is simple to optimise in a raid setting, nor does it mean that you're actually going to be any good at it in practice. The deeper you go down the rabbit hole, the more complex it gets and the more creative you have to become to improve. If you think a job is trivial to play, you probably haven't played or analysed it well enough.

    Which is fair; no matter how versatile of a player you are, there will always be one job you have either spent more time on or have more skill on than the rest. It's not about seeking validation for the job you play; you just understand its depth that much better.
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  9. #29
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcatica View Post
    Oh nice thanks for the link, fun stats to look at!

    The gender distribution depending of the location is kind of surprising for me, I did not expect such differences, EU and NA are like switched stats O.O.


    Anyway back on topic, the data from the link directly answers the OP, if not just missing the 2016 update.

    As for myself, I don't tank, as in I don't tank Duties, even I still level up tank classes.
    But if I decided to, I would use the PLD because I like how the skills works. Not only I don't like the WAR gameplay much but I really dislike his animations for myself.
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  10. #30
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    Vanessa Zio
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Just for the record saying that something has an higher skill ceiling does not equal saying is harder, I went into details into explaining why the fact the war having higher skill ceiling is true twice already and twice I deleted it by mistake trying to copypaste it because my work keyboard has a weird layout and I ended up pressing fn+v leaving me with my reply consisting in a single lower case "v" and a lot of rage, I'll see if I can find the time and the mental strenght to do that again
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