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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    For me tomes is perfectly fine since the gear is trash come next patch usually anyway. If it had any real lifespan I would mind putting effort into obtaining it.

    I did for coil gear, but really that was because I really enjoyed coil so I was happy running it multiple times for drops.

    What it really comes down to is content and/or lifespan. If content is good or gear lasts and lasts then yes give me drops, but for me with Alex I'd rather stick a goblin in a bag with a lala, tie them to a tree branch and poke them with sticks to see what falls out. And since the gear doesn't last any fantastic amount of time, I am good with tomes.
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    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    I like the token & tome farming solution. So you can go the faster harder way by raiding, or the slower easier way by farming Tomes, or do both to go even faster xD.
    I don't like RNG because while it can give out very quick gratification if you're lucky with the loot, it can be very unpleasant if you're not. Basically you don't really deserve what you get lucky or not. With tomes or tokens, you do earn what you get.
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    Eldevern's Avatar
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I prefer tombstone tokens . People who prefer random have probably never experienced what lack of luck really mean... And random just add lifespan for those who are unlucky and goes to fast for others. To put it simply, I hate rng.

    With rng it can happens you never get what you run for.

    Little edit for Texa Yuu
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 12-01-2016 at 10:01 PM.

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    Texa Yuu
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    I prefer tombstone.
    I also prefer tombstone!


    Okay but yeah, random drops are okay for alts but I'd rather the best main gear be a little more guaranteed.
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I really wish you could "Farm" the raids, ONTOP of pages. :C Yeah yeah you burn out the content. But Am I really supposed to be doing a raid for 12 straight weeks for 1 or 2 items???

    I would rather you get 1 Page every week you clear.... BUT remove the 0-1-2 chest lockouts. Let 2 chests drop each time (Hell knock it down to 1 after your clear IDC JUST SOMETHING.) You should be able to roll everytime you beat the fight. Just like a12N. You get a Gear each week, but are still able to roll on the items that drop, as long as you haven't gotten an item this week.

    I'm fine with clearing each floor each week for a page THEN going back to farm for specific pieces or even going into a PUG to do it. Just give me the option. Let me falter the hand of RNG with more effort.

    Pages should be used mostly for Upgrade Materials and if your luck is that bad, 270 Alex Drops.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 12-01-2016 at 05:44 PM.

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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Character
    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    RNG is fine for things like mounts and minions, but keep it far away from my character progression, please.

    Currency for equipment.

    RNG for everything else.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Character
    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I'd rather have both. Using current content as an example, put the 260 gear in dungeons and have the same drops available for tomestones as "RNG insurance."
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    Shirai's Avatar
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    Shirai N'yankoro
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 60
    Something can be said for either, both are ways to keep content alive to some extent and one should not cancel the other option, in my opinion.

    Personally I am a fan of the Tomestone farming, I still consider myself a pretty casual player who's more into gathering, crafting and mainly doing the story content.
    With Tomestones I'm assured to at least stay around or above the content level while being able to mainly do the things I enjoy doing the most in this game.
    The random drop system is perfect for those that enjoy and have enough time to run that content.
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    Felis catus

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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Scarlett Dzian
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 76
    When it comes to loot I hate tomestones as a primary source.

    To me personally I would say the loot system the extreme primals use is almost perfect. (better if tokens didn't eat inventory space)

    If you kill Sophia Extreme for example a weapon is guaranteed to drop for the party. It may or may not be a weapon you want. If it is then that's cool hope you win the roll.

    If it isn't then don't worry because you also got a token. so even if you do the fight loads of times and the weapon you want never drops. after x number of wins (10 in the case of extreme primals) you'll have enough tokens to get your weapon no matter what. so progress is still guaranteed

    Personally I think it's one of the best loot systems in place.

    The issue with tomestones (currently Scripture) is that player's don't do the content for the loot, just the daily bonus.
    no one cares about the 225 loot that drops from expert roulettes for example. all they care about is the 90 scripture they'll get at the end... just makes the content even more invalid and obselete than it already is...
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    Last edited by Dzian; 12-02-2016 at 12:53 AM.

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    Ageofwar's Avatar
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    Character
    Age Ofwar
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I like the Tome gear system since SE seems to have odd weights on gear drops atm to the point were healer and tank gear drops more then caster gear
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    Age of War


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