Getting WHM on Par

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Honestly, I think a better solution would be to make fights require consistent healing. While I am a serious advocate for healers to DPS whenever the fight allows, they shouldn't be spending near the amount of time they do in Cleric Stance. Making all forms of content hit harder allows the three healers to properly differentiate. Want to be a primary healer? Pick White Mage. Want to DPS more heavily and provide support heals/shields? Be a Scholar. Want to be a jack-of-all? Level up Astro. Right now, Savage is the only content where this even remotely comes into play.

[Leigaon]

Honestly, I think a better solution would be to make fights require consistent healing....

That to a deeper extent, would be ideal for everyone. I forget that most of these complaints are from a raiding standpoint. I still freak out sometimes being in damage dealing stance thinking "I've been in here for a while..how is it someone isn't dead?" then a DRG dies so I feel better. ^_^

Like some have said, I would like a few things to just be adjusted for WHM. The DoT spell duration increase, consolidate stone spells, have bene be instant.

On the other hand I think Assize has a good step in the right direction, being able to heal / damage deal and give back MP. Depending on your stance will determine which has a bit more potency to it. I wouldn't mind a MP reduction on just stoneskin..I know I shouldn't but I like to use it when I can on black mages. That's more a personal thing.

Trying to think, what would be some solid cases of being identified as a white mage do you all think?

Maybe something like Bar-Magi that's a potent magic reduction but on a cooldown. Or En-light that is party wide, acc boost / elemental damage to attacks..or maybe they'll have us deal more with debuffs in 4.0 and the rebuild. In which case I'm happy to throw down a Slowga.

[JunseiKei]

See, the evil person in me would strip healers of attack spells, sans maybe one. You know, solo play and questing are still a thing. I'm not unmerciful. One that would be horribly MP draining to use in a fight (think Holy and cost stays a static amount based on MP- similar to black mage spells) and accuracy cannot be melded into healer gear. To make sure people didn't circumvent the accuracy ban, make healer a new Disciple- Disciple of Mending. Then make fights harder to heal that actually require both healers and possibly give them debuffs to apply as a means to give them something to do if there's no major healing needed at that current point.

I'm only slightly evil. I swear it.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

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No offense, but that's just bad game design. You're more likely to drive people away from healing entirely than encourage them to play it. Making the content harder, and thus necessitating frequent heals provides a reason they can't DPS. Arbitrarily removing all their DPS abilities on top of that is like dungeons putting up walls to prevent large pulls. It feels entirely artificial.

[JunseiKei]

Making the content harder, and thus necessitating frequent heals.

That was the point. As well as me saying I'm only slightly evil because I fully understand many DPS as healers. Mainly because there is no need to have two healers healing 24/7- it mainly comes down to mitigate this and go back to DPSing while your MH does their thing. In any case, my comment was more to irritate someone than to be serious. :3

I wouldn't mind seeing more mechanics like T11's trash pull, though, or to provide actual heal checks more frequently than maybe 3 times an expansion (exaggeration).

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

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I like your thinking.

[Rawrz]

See, the evil person in me would strip healers of attack spells, sans maybe one. You know, solo play and questing are still a thing. I'm not unmerciful. One that would be horribly MP draining to use in a fight (think Holy and cost stays a static amount based on MP- similar to black mage spells) and accuracy cannot be melded into healer gear. To make sure people didn't circumvent the accuracy ban, make healer a new Disciple- Disciple of Mending. Then make fights harder to heal that actually require both healers and possibly give them debuffs to apply as a means to give them something to do if there's no major healing needed at that current point.

I'm only slightly evil. I swear it.

We can do the same for tanks! Let's give everyone Flash-like only skills and maybe some debuffs to use when they aren't main tanking. You don't need to do damage to hold hate if the enmity potency is high enough. xD

Meanwhile... SCHs and WARs flood the forums and riot... xD

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

We can do the same for tanks! Let's give everyone Flash and maybe some debuffs to use when they aren't main tanking. You don't need to do damage to hold hate if the enmity potency is high enough. xD

Incorrect! Main tank dps is accounted for as well. They do in fact need to deal damage.

[Rawrz]

Incorrect! Main tank dps is accounted for as well. They do in fact need to deal damage.

But why? We are stripping classes of essential components of their Jobs. Why not? If you aren't a Damage Per Second class, you should be Healing Damage or Tanking it. Tanks doing damage being accounted for DPS checks is just a consequence of enmity skills having base potency. Remove the potency and their damage contribution will be accounted for as 0. Please look forward to it.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I guess you had bad healers.