Request: Ability to re-assign class levels after 1.20

[Answa]

Am I the only one that read the notes that said that we can use 10 skills/abilities from other classes? Yes? Ok.

[Aenarion]

Am I the only one that read the notes that said that we can use 10 skills/abilities from other classes? Yes? Ok.

apparently so

the OP is a subpar crappy side-healer, he can continue to be a subpar crappy side-healer after 1.20 by putting cure on his thm.

you don't get a free pass from being a crappy side-healer to be a main healer

[Meleena]

Just spend 1-3 days before 1.20 and level CNJ to 50...

[Teknoman]

Just relevel up again with the class. They'll play totally different than what you've played before either way.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Love it when people who develop flash games come in to school others about MMO development. Classic.

[Spider-Dan]

So I guess there are three consistent responses in this thread. I'll try to address them again here.

1) "You were a crappy healer before for not having 50CNJ."
I ranked THM prior to 1.18, and my main is ARC. (If you can make an argument for why healing THM needed 50CNJ in 1.17, feel free to do so.) When 1.18 came out and THM was relegated to RDM status (i.e. secondary healer), I accepted that, just as I accepted ARC's nerfs in 1.19. I ranked up THM in the first place because it happened to be the best healer, not because I wanted to main heal. I'm fine with it not being mainheal, but I still would like to keep a healing job.

2) "Just level up another class instead."
As I said before, if you believe that "Just rank up a different class for the same role" is a valid response, why not just do a character wipe? Isn't the point of not doing a wipe to prevent the reduplication of effort that players have already spent?

3) "You should have expected big changes."
I'm fine with the big changes; nowhere in this thread have you seen me ask that THM maintain its role. But nowhere in the scope of "big changes" is it implied that they cannot allow plays to reassign levels based on the new roles that they assign to classes.

I'm really surprised at the amount of vitriol this suggestion has generated. What is the downside of allowing players to reassign levels when major class roles are completely reworked? Is it that players will be able to reassign the time they have already invested to the new roles SE has created? Whom does this hurt?

You're acting like I'm asking for a perpetually available reassignment ability. Giving the players an option to reassign levels when they completely change roles around is completely fair and reasonable. If they radically changed crafting so that WVR and LTW no longer made any finished gear (which was all made by ARM), I would be saying the same thing.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

So I guess there are three consistent responses in this thread. I'll try to address them again here.

1) "You were a crappy healer before for not having 50CNJ."
I ranked THM prior to 1.18, and my main is ARC. (If you can make an argument for why healing THM needed 50CNJ in 1.17, feel free to do so.) When 1.18 came out and THM was relegated to RDM status (i.e. secondary healer), I accepted that, just as I accepted ARC's nerfs in 1.19. I ranked up THM in the first place because it happened to be the best healer, not because I wanted to main heal. I'm fine with it not being mainheal, but I still would like to keep a healing job.

2) "Just level up another class instead."
As I said before, if you believe that "Just rank up a different class for the same role" is a valid response, why not just do a character wipe? Isn't the point of not doing a wipe to prevent the reduplication of effort that players have already spent?

3) "You should have expected big changes."
I'm fine with the big changes; nowhere in this thread have you seen me ask that THM maintain its role. But nowhere in the scope of "big changes" is it implied that they cannot allow plays to reassign levels based on the new roles that they assign to classes.

I'm really surprised at the amount of vitriol this suggestion has generated. What is the downside of allowing players to reassign levels when major class roles are completely reworked? Is it that players will be able to reassign the time they have already invested to the new roles SE has created? Whom does this hurt?

You're acting like I'm asking for a perpetually available reassignment ability. Giving the players an option to reassign levels when they completely change roles around is completely fair and reasonable. If they radically changed crafting so that WVR and LTW no longer made any finished gear (which was all made by ARM), I would be saying the same thing.

It's very simple. THM was never a healer. It had the capability to heal and happened to be better at it due to it's cone shaped AOE. CON was always destined to heal. That was blatantly obvious many months ago when CON was given curaga and 3 different types of raises.

If you continued to level THM expecting it to become a WHM or viable healer class later in the game, the joke is on you and you have to *slowly descending Wayfarers* Deal with it.

[Spider-Dan]

It's very simple. THM was never a healer. It had the capability to heal and happened to be better at it due to it's cone shaped AOE.

THM has been the superior healer for the majority of this game's existence. Both mages were designed as healers, and it's silly to pretend otherwise.

CON was always destined to heal. That was blatantly obvious many months ago when CON was given curaga and 3 different types of raises.

Um, "three months ago" was 10 months after the game was released? That doesn't sound like "always" to me.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

THM has been the superior healer for the majority of this game's existence. Both mages were designed as healers, and it's silly to pretend otherwise.

Actually, it wasn't. The cone AoE gave it a advantage. Everything else in THM's arsenal was for DoT enfeebling spells and magical defensive tanking. CON had the exact same healing potential, but with a different and ill received AoE radius. There were a few abilities that would suggest MP conservation which could point to them being strong healers, but let's just forget that for now.

Technically, when looking at that standpoint and using your logic, both would potentially become a main healer. This will be in response to your next point.

Um, "three months ago" was 10 months after the game was released? That doesn't sound like "always" to me.

Yet you still leveled THM after that change. In this specific case, it's really about common sense. When you see changes to one class going into a main healing role put two and two together and make a safe assumption that this is probably projected to be a main healer. Sorry you wasted very little mind power to achieve maxing your THM, but you should have saw this coming a while ago. Unless, you're on a three month delay.