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  1. #71
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    Krausus's Avatar
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    Krausus Dracul
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    This wouldn't bother me if they restricted it to THM and CNJ only.
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  2. #72
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    Boye Fran
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    Oh, trust me. If you leveled a class to max the first three months of this game, you wouldn't look at leveling a class to max as a feat any longer the way it is now.

    Be thankful the revised team didn't hold onto that rate of progression.

    Just level the class. You have so much time to do so.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    Hey, if you want to min/max, more power to you. Again, as I said, if my desired primary role was main healer, I wouldn't even be on THM, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

    I'm not asking for THM to keep a healer role; I'm asking for people who have leveled a healer class to get the option to still have one after the update.
    Wait, you keep saying you don't want your primary role to be main healer, yet you want to be given the chance to transfer your level 50 THM to a level 50 CNJ without actually leveling it.

    You leveled a healing class, and after the update you will still have the option to have one after the update. Level conjurer, because your entire thread is about hypocrisy.
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  4. #74
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    Bladed Arms
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    ehhh people are responding with anger for no reason, i dont see why so many people are offended that he might want to respec, the fact is, conjurer and thaumaturge have had such drastic changes that they are no longer what they were, thm especially bears almost no resemblence to what it was, in fact i dont think anything is left from thm at all, wait they still have a magic acc skill, and one that alters range, thats about the only thing in common with what it was.

    Its not like he is asking for charity, he is saying if you make sweeping changes, so much so that the a class, or role is completely and utterly changed, give people the option to change jobs. Honestly now that i look at it, they really should have just made a new mage class for blm, it has very little in common with Thm. no absorbs, no death magics, nor darkness elements. Defensive skill styles totally gone. It really is like as someone said, conjurer was cut in half and one side killed thm and is wearing his clothes.
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  5. #75
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    Tsuga Lem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    ehhh people are responding with anger for no reason, i dont see why so many people are offended that he might want to respec, the fact is, conjurer and thaumaturge have had such drastic changes that they are no longer what they were, thm especially bears almost no resemblence to what it was, in fact i dont think anything is left from thm at all, wait they still have a magic acc skill, and one that alters range, thats about the only thing in common with what it was.

    Its not like he is asking for charity, he is saying if you make sweeping changes, so much so that the a class, or role is completely and utterly changed, give people the option to change jobs. Honestly now that i look at it, they really should have just made a new mage class for blm, it has very little in common with Thm. no absorbs, no death magics, nor darkness elements. Defensive skill styles totally gone. It really is like as someone said, conjurer was cut in half and one side killed thm and is wearing his clothes.
    The thing is that we were warned of this. If you (by you, I mean the OP) weren't prepared to have the game completely flipped on its head, you should have stopped playing after the second player poll.

    It's like saying that you deserve compensation for all of the time you spent in a beta.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuga View Post
    The thing is that we were warned of this. If you (by you, I mean the OP) weren't prepared to have the game completely flipped on its head, you should have stopped playing after the second player poll.

    It's like saying that you deserve compensation for all of the time you spent in a beta.
    problem is this game costs money, and they said many times that you would not lose your progress, in all honesty what has happened to thm is almost exactly as if they DID reassign his levels, but to a new class with no other option. really man look at the skill list, there is only 2/15 skills from thm there. Even if he should have known that thm would change, i dont think anyone saw this coming, they dont even got scourge anymore. Combine that with the changes to the armory /cross class abilities, there really isnt much of his investment left.

    Its honestly a pretty simple solution, yeah they are going to make drastic changes, if people feel that has changed thier charachters too much, let them switch their charachters, i really dont see who is getting hurt here. Whats the worst that can happen? hes a bad con? that could happen regardless.
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  7. #77
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    We keep on posting from a player standpoint on this subject. Let's instead think about the developers.

    - Is it easy to program? Nope, too many specal cases to just bang out. While it would seem easy to to make some kind of point slide interface, there is a lot of potential for abuse.

    - How many players are we aggravating with this? Not that many. At least in comparison to those who like or don't care.

    - Do the have an alternative? Yes, many have already done it too. Level conj.

    - does this have the potential to go wrong, and shut down the game to resolve? Yes
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    Last edited by GreyT; 11-22-2011 at 04:43 AM.

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    Am I the only one that read the notes that said that we can use 10 skills/abilities from other classes? Yes? Ok.
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  9. #79
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by GreyT View Post
    - Is it easy to program? Nope, too many specal cases to just bang out. While it would seem easy to to make some kind of point slide interface, there is a lot of potential for abuse.

    - How many players are we aggravating with this? Not that many. At least in comparison to those who like or don't care.

    - Do the have an alternative? Yes, many have already done it too. Level conj.
    well i dont know their system, but in general in most games, its pretty easy to do, i would just allow you to switch two job levels from DoM. Also they dont need to build a UI for this, in theory its a one time thing, they could just add an npc script to change your levels around.

    but if it is in fact super difficult to do, then i guess its a question of cost versus reward. I guess the devs will have to decide, but i dont think its an insane idea, or one that deserves hatred for mentioning.
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  10. #80
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    Meleena Steelheart
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    Pugilist Lv 74
    Just spend 1-3 days before 1.20 and level CNJ to 50...
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