Thread: Request: Ability to re-assign class levels after 1.20

Wait whah...? Taking levels from a class and share them between other classes? You know that this is by any chance not like the talent system of WoW, rite?
In WoW you have three Masteries, and inside those there are skills that can be used by a class (for the Mage there is Ice specialization, Fire specialization and another one I don't remember).
In FFXIV Classes are like WoW's classes, which for now have a Mastery by themselves, and in the future there'll be Jobs, which will be the Masteries of each class.
You simply can't alter the level of a class since these will have jobs. What if you transfer some levels from your L30 to your L10? You'll f*ck up your levels by removing the Job allowance from the L30 class.

Remove "Class levels" and put in "Attribute points" in your sentence, and then we can speak of something that can be done.

start levelling CON, by the time the patch hits you will be 50 without any problems.



PS: And you WANT to have both mage classes levelled anyway so you can share some skills.

With how dynamic the changes to THM have been compared to other classes the devs should sincerly take the time to consider how some who may have only leveled that class may feel about it. There's a reason why there was an argument for a long time as to what class would be WHM and which would be BLM or why not RDM instead of BLM. When you consider everything Conjurer had the makings of both a WHM and a BLM because of their access to all elemental magic as well as access to curative and buffing spells. THM on the otherhand was more of a healer/enfeebler with DD magic.

When it was noted that CON would be WHM and THM would be BLM it was pretty clear that the changes would be pretty dynamic. Now that we've seen those changes I think it's fair to say that THM can't even be considered THM anymore, it's not what the original design of THM is. Other classes still retain their identity but THM was pretty much killed and then COnjurer created a twin brother of itself and shared it's abilities with it.

In that essence I honestly don't think it's unfair to request those who have leveled x mage job to switch to another because that's the role they wanted to play. I'm sure there are some Con only that wanted to be more BLM like but now they've lost a big list of them to THM. It would be a simple remedy just to have an NPC in each town, it could easily be a Conjurerer and THM NPC standing next to one another speaking of how their methods have changed and if their are any of their bretherens that feel cheated they are able to perform a ritual to swap knowledge of their arts from one class to another. Of course because of the stress this spell has on it's target it can only be performed once so choose wisely before confirming to this change. Then a warning message would pop up such as -You can only perform this request once, You may not be on Con/THM at the time of change and must equip an Arm from any other class, Once the change has taken place you will no longer have knowledge of the abilities you have learned from that level- Then after confirming the levels swap and everybody is happy.


But ya, perhaps some news will be mentioned as to how they will handle the extreme changes made, perhaps they'll just apologize to those who thought they would play x role but are now unable to but who knows lol.

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

In the same sense and to the extent that I could also equip it on my ARC, sure.

Exactly. Archer isn't a healing class. Neither will Thaumaturge. Why should you have a native healing spell if your class isn't meant to be a healer?

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

...except that THM has native healing ability now, and has since the game was released. That native healing ability is scheduled to be removed.

A lot of jobs are losing a lot of skills. Should a CNJ rage that they are losing shield skills and demand that they have native shield skills despite that not being the focus of their job?

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

Prior to 1.18, there was no one "healing class"; both CNJ and THM were originally designed to capably main heal. Given that THM has been the superior healer for the majority of this game's existence, I don't think it's unreasonable to have expected native healing ability from it.

This update is essentially equivalent to removing cure spells from RDM.

We are no longer "Prior to Patch 1.18". The days of AoE Sacrifice II are long gone and that's not at all heartbreaking. The game is balancing out. And is CNJ not more superior because it's casting arc was Radial and not Cone? Especially considering buffs and the nature of parties these days.

Also, it's not like removing cure spells from a RDM. A RDM isn't a designated nuking class. THM is. RDM is a fusion of cures and nukes. Such a class will not exist at the time of 1.20, unless you intend to give your THM said cross class skills.

Originally Posted by Airget

With how dynamic the changes to THM have been compared to other classes the devs should sincerly take the time to consider how some who may have only leveled that class may feel about it. There's a reason why there was an argument for a long time as to what class would be WHM and which would be BLM or why not RDM instead of BLM. When you consider everything Conjurer had the makings of both a WHM and a BLM because of their access to all elemental magic as well as access to curative and buffing spells. THM on the otherhand was more of a healer/enfeebler with DD magic.

When it was noted that CON would be WHM and THM would be BLM it was pretty clear that the changes would be pretty dynamic. Now that we've seen those changes I think it's fair to say that THM can't even be considered THM anymore, it's not what the original design of THM is. Other classes still retain their identity but THM was pretty much killed and then COnjurer created a twin brother of itself and shared it's abilities with it.

In that essence I honestly don't think it's unfair to request those who have leveled x mage job to switch to another because that's the role they wanted to play. I'm sure there are some Con only that wanted to be more BLM like but now they've lost a big list of them to THM. It would be a simple remedy just to have an NPC in each town, it could easily be a Conjurerer and THM NPC standing next to one another speaking of how their methods have changed and if their are any of their bretherens that feel cheated they are able to perform a ritual to swap knowledge of their arts from one class to another. Of course because of the stress this spell has on it's target it can only be performed once so choose wisely before confirming to this change. Then a warning message would pop up such as -You can only perform this request once, You may not be on Con/THM at the time of change and must equip an Arm from any other class, Once the change has taken place you will no longer have knowledge of the abilities you have learned from that level- Then after confirming the levels swap and everybody is happy.


But ya, perhaps some news will be mentioned as to how they will handle the extreme changes made, perhaps they'll just apologize to those who thought they would play x role but are now unable to but who knows lol.

Putting aside the DoWs; the fact that there have been ongoing arguments about which DoM should be WHM/BLM/RDM confirms that THM/CNJ never had a real identity. They were both a hodgepodge of healing/offensive abilities. Now they're each getting an identity. Rejoice.

If you were serious about playing your class (as healer OR magical DPS) then you should have had both classes capped in the first place. Allowing class reassignments is dumb; if you didn't have both capped before you now have a year to do so, and it's EXTREMELY easy to get classes to cap now. So again: no.

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