Thread: Request: Ability to re-assign class levels after 1.20

Originally Posted by Neptune

He isn't upset about the changes. He just wants to put his levels into the role he thought he had chosen when he created his character. I don't see anything wrong with that. The idea that you would tell this person to spend the time grinding on another class to make up for this change is totally offensive.

He wants.... what you want. Reparations. Which many of us, as seen in the numerous replies to this, and many of your topics, find, as you so aptly put, offensive. We knew what was coming, and many of us adjusted tactics; Adjusted to change. If a player decides they want to be half the mage they could be, (even though the best abilities are split between classes) then they shouldn't be surprised when a game rebalance suddenly emphasizes their.... mediocrity.

Originally Posted by Neptune

There are actually 600,000 people who leveled their classes into the 20s-30s and then quit the game.

Edit: And again you post some very specific statistics to support your assertions. Mind showing some citations, or was this a guess?

After all, ffxivpro shows less than 1/6 of that value.

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

I never said I wanted to be a "great healer."

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

For the ten months prior to 1.18, THM was arguably the best healer in the game.

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

Speaking for myself, I ranked up THM under the old mages-are-good-at-both-roles paradigm, with the intent of using THM as a healer.

So you wanted to use the class that was best at healing, but you didn't want to be great at it?

I hope they don't do this. Your time wasn't wasted, you keep whatever skills will now be assigned to the class you played, and will for the most part still be able to use most of those said skills on other classes. There is no need to re-assign levels to another class.

As it is, we should feel lucky they are letting us keep our levels we have. It doesn't really benefit them or the community really. In allowing us to keep our levels while the whole purpose of a class we played gets adjusted, it just means that we will have a bunch of high-levels who will not understand what it takes to level a class. There won't be seasoned mentors in the community, only instantly changed maxed classes with no real clue as to what it now takes to get to that level. While they will relearn their level 50 with all the skill available to them, playing at lower levels is always harder because you have less to work with.

No, SE please don't let people re-assign their levels.

Originally Posted by Alerith

Because healing classes have NEVER had elemental damage spells in any prior FF before, right?

Because DD classes have NEVER had healing spells in any prior FF before, right?

We could play this dumb game all day.

Stop trying to reword what he says. You just want to simply point out "I don't have anything REAL to contribute to this discussion, other than my opinion."

If you feel that someone who had their role switched, should not be allowed to go to a class that is that role, that is merely an opinion.
You are not helping to find any way this can be exploited, or prevent the DEVs from wasting valuable resources.
You are only arguing with him, to say your opinion is right, ans his is wrong.

I'm no THM or CNJ, but I would be upset too if I was shafted like him.
And unlike you, someone in this thread has actually given some real input on the matter, unlike you.

If what he is saying is "I level'd the wrong job! Transfer my levels please."
You are purposely leaving it there to sound like it was his own fault.
Who decided to change the roles? HIM or SE?
Seriously if u even attempt to reword this, so it sounds like him, you are sorely mistaken into thinking I'll fall for that.

SHOULD a person have both leveled?
I would myself. (And plan to do this with my current classes.)
But considering the game advertised a class could do its role, w/o the need of leveling other classes, he shouldn't NEED to.

Granted yes we saw it coming, and granted people asked for changes.
But that's not much to go on.
All of this took place after the launch, not before.

But considering JOBS can NOT equip cross class abilities, WHY should he have both leveled?
Now it's just a waste of time.

IF SE wants people happy, and they can't deliver, that will just cause this game to die all the more faster.

A better argument is, would implementing this help or hinder the subscription numbers?
Will people quit because of this, or will they play longer, to take up CNJ now?

Not that I like that mentality, but it's the reality SE will look at.

Originally Posted by Duuude007

Reparations. (Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.)

It's not the right thing to do, its certain players' 'gimme-gimme' attitude toward compensation for changes that we knew would happen in some form, and for which we should have been prepared.

And SE might as well say good bye to the players and not bother to add any fixes/2.0
because this gimmie attitude shouldn't ask for improvements.
You should have been prepared for a terrible system, and dealt with it.

Originally Posted by neizero

You guys talk as if they changed Gladiator from a tanking role to a healing role... I'd feel more sympathetic with this request if that was the case

But conjurer was THE healing class from day 1, with THM being the dark-magic class who can also heal a bit so that we don't necesarily need a conjurer in every party. If you failed to see this then it is your own fault, the game's originally intended role for conjurer has not changed...

Neither class were meant to be more or less of a healer.
Honestly it's going to hurt the game allot only having 1 healer.

Stop trying to pretend the creators intended a pure healer or pure DD class out of the 2.
In the early stages it was mentioned many times they wanted THM to heal or DD as well as CNJ.

Originally Posted by NotoriousZow

No thanks. Go level Conjurer. And saying "I wanted to be a healer, but I don't care if i was a mediocre healer" isn't helping you prove your point man. If you wanted to be a true healer class you would want actual Cure spells, Pro2, Shell2, poisona, ect. If you have the attitude of being OK with being a mediocre healer, then I fail to see why you are so concerned of being a healer so bad.

yes because the chances of a 15 man group not having a CNJ who could do that was just too likely...

If this was ever added, it would need to be a switch of THM and CNJ levels, and nothing else.

But despite wanting the option to switch my levels, if I were in your shoes, Looking at the lack of healers now, it WOULD be better for the game, if THMs had to now take up CNJ, to increase the number of healers available to group.
Along side the argument of time better spent elsewhere for SE.
This is something that's not what you or those cheated want, but this is my attempt at contribution to FFXIV over all.