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  1. #161
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    lynex's Avatar
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    Kiandra Lilly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    Because it only takes days or weeks... This isn't me, but this is just an example:



    Even that's way on the slow side, and they weren't doing it non-stop. You can get 250-300k EXP/hr powerleveling and farming Natalan coffers or Inferno Tapers. 1-50 takes less than 1.8m EXP. That's 6-8 hours or so.
    I don't have anyone to powerlevel me and I only solo so I only do leves. I only play 2 to 3 hrs 3 or 4 days a week and I also craft so not all people can get to 50 in 3 days. I know if I went out and partied I would get more exp but I don't really like to do that unless I have a block of free time. I don't want to join then have to leave an hour later. I know this is my problem but everyone plays at their own pace.

  2. #162
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    Neptune's Avatar
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    Neptune Deepsea
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    Once again we see the logic that someone should just do as you do. Way to put yourself in other shoes Brucy. Let's see you have almost every class at 50. Must be nice to get on the forums and tell people to level up every class with you. Probably makes you feel less lonely, but think of people's time. It's great that you enjoy the game so much but not everyone wishes to put in even 1 extra hour when they were determined to spend their time differently. Just think of others, don't think about your 50s, or what you did, because it's not about YOU. Think of someone else for a change. Be considerate. Try it.
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  3. #163
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    Once again we see the logic that someone should just do as you do. Way to put yourself in other shoes Brucy. Let's see you have almost every class at 50. Must be nice to get on the forums and tell people to level up every class with you. Probably makes you feel less lonely, but think of people's time. It's great that you enjoy the game so much but not everyone wishes to put in even 1 extra hour when they were determined to spend their time differently. Just think of others, don't think about your 50s, or what you did, because it's not about YOU. Think of someone else for a change. Be considerate. Try it.
    Edit: DERP moment.

    Also, it doesn't matter how many 50's people have or don't have. Levels have never been an acceptable measure of the skill a player has.
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    Last edited by Alerith; 11-24-2011 at 05:18 PM.

  4. #164
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    BruceyBruceyBangBang's Avatar
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    Boye Fran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    Once again we see the logic that someone should just do as you do. Way to put yourself in other shoes Brucy. Let's see you have almost every class at 50. Must be nice to get on the forums and tell people to level up every class with you. Probably makes you feel less lonely, but think of people's time. It's great that you enjoy the game so much but not everyone wishes to put in even 1 extra hour when they were determined to spend their time differently. Just think of others, don't think about your 50s, or what you did, because it's not about YOU. Think of someone else for a change. Be considerate. Try it.
    Yeah, I never said to level all 50's. I mentioned DoM. That's 2 classes and I'm often empathetic, and in this situation, it's really about lack of common sense.

    The player already knew very well that they were not leveling a proficient healer, but still... why would you not plan on leveling CON to max as well. That is the point of the armoury system. People should use it.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    When you make silly threads like this and this, you really have no room to talk about the other's logic on any matter.

    Also, it doesn't matter how many 50's people have or don't have. Levels have never been an acceptable measure of the skill a player has.
    I didn't make 1 of those threads, but way to respond since I didn't bring skill up and neither did the OP in his OP. Just because the Armoury system rewards effort does not mean people are obligated to put in the work. You should be glad it does without thinking of it as necessary work. I'm sure the OP is well aware of the benefits of leveling up multiple classes, but can you imagine why he doesn't want to put 1 extra level into a class he's not interested in? Maybe he uses his time differently than you. How is that contrary to common sense? Maybe he spends time with his family, love interest, or maybe he hunts deer or is an alcoholic. You see what I'm doing? I'm imagining what it must be like for him instead of forcing my habits on him. Why don't you try that and then consider his request from his perspective.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    The player already knew very well that they were not leveling a proficient healer, but still... why would you not plan on leveling CON to max as well. That is the point of the armoury system. People should use it.
    The point of the armoury system is that you should level both mages to max?

    Brucey, it seems that all of your responses have been aimed specifically at me and my situation. This thread is not entitled, "Allow THMs to switch to CNJ"; it is about allowing any player whose class role has been reassigned/eliminated to change. This also potentially includes nuking CNJ and enfeebling/soloist shield mages, as well as healing THM.

    You say that it was obvious that CNJ would become WHM (despite CNJ having ancient magic), but that doesn't say anything as to whether THM was going to become RDM, SCH, or anything else. It has been claimed repeatedly that role reassignment is not a serious concern because every mage should have both classes to the cap, but do you honestly believe that Yoshida would agree with that sentiment? That any developer would say that players who main one class are expected to have the complimentary class maxed as well?

    Will healers who start the game after 1.20 be expected to also level THM to 50, for abilities that have almost no impact on healing?
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    Last edited by Spider-Dan; 11-25-2011 at 04:52 AM.

  7. #167
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    Aenarion Estelvir
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    might as well lock this thread now, everyone is just repeating what they've said over and over again.

    spider and neptune isn't gonna convince anyone that they're right, and no one is gonna convince you two that you're wrong.
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  8. #168
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    Neptune Deepsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    might as well lock this thread now, everyone is just repeating what they've said over and over again.

    spider and neptune isn't gonna convince anyone that they're right, and no one is gonna convince you two that you're wrong.
    Because it's not a matter or right or wrong. It's about helping players or not helping them. I like to help people; some only want to help themselves. It may not be wrong to not help someone, but it doesn't exactly make you an awesome person.
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  9. #169
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    Renshi Hyatsuki
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    Come on! Is there a reason to not level every class to 50?
    I have one, and that is to experience new content with low classes. That's kinda why my Lancer is still down to 30.
    But really, aside that you're a jerk like me, there's no reason to not be 50 in every class. New class, New experience!
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    Last edited by Renshi; 11-26-2011 at 10:05 PM.

  10. #170
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    I'd just like to remind the dev team that this is going to be an important issue in the coming months and the suggestion of this thread would be a great gesture to its few remaining players.
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