Gamasutra interview of N. Yoshida

[Betelgeuzah]

To me XIII is hardly even a game and I wouldn't even call it's gameplay bad because I personally felt like there wasn't any gameplay to experience in it.

Actually this is what makes discussing about it pointless. Haters gonna hate, nothing but subjectiveness about it.

Even at it's worst XIII's gameplay was at least on par with any mainline title before it (press X to win, change from offense to defense once in a while). Except in XIII you couldn't break the game (as easily) nor did any playstyle become worthless as the game progressed, nor did the game become easier. The small flaws (no blood damage, leader dies=game over) are fixed in the successor as well.

XII was also mostly about walking around and watching the characters grind by themselves....

You still had to press X for cool shit to happen. How is this different from any FF before it? It's not. This time it was only more balanced and not as easily breakable. Something that MMO's require to function.

Where's the dislike button when we need it.

You just singlehandedly justified the lack of a dislike button. All it does is make people abuse their opinions that are nothing but subjective bias.

[AdvancedWind]

You just singlehandedly justified the lack of a dislike button. All it does is make people abuse their opinions that are nothing but subjective bias.

Someone not agreeing with someone else and showing it would be an "abuse"? How? Heck, how is that even different from someone "abusing the like option"? All opnions are nothing but subjective bias, including yours.

Not that I'd really care about a dislike button, anyways.

[Betelgeuzah]

Someone not agreeing with someone else and showing it would be an "abuse"? How?

All you do is press the dislike button. You don't justify your stance in any way. You don't even come out and straight up tell me you disagree. How can you have a proper argument in an environment like this? It no longer matters what is said, but whether it is in the line with the majority's opinion. It doesn't have to be true, or right, and worst of all, justified. You can simply dislike the "bad" opinions and like the "good opinions", anonymously.

Why this sort of behaviour should be embraced is beyond me. It is as lazy as it gets and breeds ignorance.

All opnions are nothing but subjective bias, including yours.

Yes, opinions tend to be like that. That's why people debate, so that it would be actually possible to figure out what is true and what is not true. It also involves presenting reasonable points and even facts if they exist to back up said opinion.

Not everything is a matter of opinion. You can look at things objectively or at least present a reasonable argument, but that won't happen when you can just press the anonymous "YOU R RONG" button and be done with it.

The arguments should speak for themselves, not some artificial number count.

i'm one of the biggest FF fans you will ever find.

The biggest FF fans are usually the least likely to look at the entries in the franchise objectively. XIII was a better game than any before it could ever hope to be. Sadly that is hardly a relevant point to make for this franchise.

[grandm]

Actually this is what makes discussing about it pointless. Haters gonna hate, nothing but subjectiveness about it.

Even at it's worst XIII's gameplay was at least on par with any mainline title before it (press X to win, change from offense to defense once in a while). Except in XIII you couldn't break the game (as easily) nor did any playstyle become worthless as the game progressed, nor did the game become easier. The small flaws (no blood damage, leader dies=game over) are fixed in the successor as well.



You still had to press X for cool shit to happen. How is this different from any FF before it? It's not. This time it was only more balanced and not as easily breakable. Something that MMO's require to function.



You just singlehandedly justified the lack of a dislike button. All it does is make people abuse their opinions that are nothing but subjective bias.

i'm one of the biggest FF fans you will ever find. (and i'm male, so you can call me a fanboy). but i have to agree with Seif on FF13, that was not a game, that was a dvd with minor user interaction, i disagree about FF12 its true with the gambit system you could set the game up to play its self almost, but you didn't have to set it up like that, and like most FF games (other than 13) there was alot to do other than the main story.

i plan on getting 13-2 it looks alot better than 13, only time will tell