This is why I do not post in these forums, you can only explain something to someone so many times before you just want to give up... you make me /facepalm Vorn.. and I'm surprised you didn't just give up Bruce lol.. I would have.. clearly he hasn't done any of these Quests nor gotten Guild Marks... cause if you did Vorn you would clearly know the way to obtain these and it is NOT through quests..... Listen to what people tell you.. or hell go look it up so you dont show the forum how bad your reading comprehension is...