Class reform on DoL & DoH

[Vorn]

It's obtained through a quest, so they would have to revamp the quests to make this possible, is what I'm saying.
It has nothing to do with level, other than the level you can do the quest, in which case, unless a new quest, you have already done it.

The fact they are "returnable" most likely no one will lose anything, they could just block it off with 50req, not opt. But then that should still be usable on other crafts that are 50.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Both disciplines will be adjusted so that they learn their abilities by leveling up, but actions and abilities will only see the following adjustments ("Fingerprints of the Gods" will still be learned via a quest):

• Actions related to eluding enemies will be removed (such as Seedkin Eluder).
  These actions will become useless with the implementation of Stealth, so we decided to remove them.
• "Wrist Flick" will be learned at level 10 instead of level 2.

The ability to purchase actions, abilities and treatises using guild tokens will be removed and guild tokens can no longer be used (edited at 4:28pm for clarity). Since it won't be possible to purchase treatises, they will no longer be included in recipes. In addition, purchased actions, abilities and treatises will be able to be returned in exchange for guild tokens at their respective guild.

Please note that we are still looking into future uses for guild tokens. We will let you know once we finalize a decision.

It's obtained through a quest, so they would have to revamp the quests to make this possible, is what I'm saying.
It has nothing to do with level, other than the level you can do the quest, in which case, unless a new quest, you have already done it.

See bold.

Yes, it does. You have it backwards. It has nothing to do with quests it has everything to do with leveling.

[Vorn]

See bold.

Yes, it does. You have it backwards. It has nothing to do with quests it has everything to do with leveling.

To some one hasn't leveled it, yes.....
But this is mostly about the people 36and upish......

And after 36, the next ability is 45.

So no... It's not about leveling, it's already leveled

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

To some one hasn't leveled it, yes.....
But this is mostly about the people 36and upish......

And after 36, the next ability is 45.

So no... It's not about leveling, it's already leveled

Wow.

/10character

[Vorn]

Wow.

/10character

You do realize you can get a rank 50 craft without ever doing a quest? But theN you wouldn't have the ability now, or after 1.20. This isn't a hard concept to grasp. For a rank 50 ability made obtained by a quest, I doubt it's going to be the same lvl 36 quest IF they revamped the quests..... Which would be the only way to keep it rank 50 ( learned)

But as I already said, they are refundable, and you can't return something you don't have, so either it's going to just stay the same, or become a required rank 50 instead of optimal. This wouldn't stop you from using this on the craft you actually got it for, provided they don't make them craft specific.

[SynysterBlitz]

This is why I do not post in these forums, you can only explain something to someone so many times before you just want to give up... you make me /facepalm Vorn.. and I'm surprised you didn't just give up Bruce lol.. I would have.. clearly he hasn't done any of these Quests nor gotten Guild Marks... cause if you did Vorn you would clearly know the way to obtain these and it is NOT through quests..... Listen to what people tell you.. or hell go look it up so you dont show the forum how bad your reading comprehension is...

[Plague]

I think Vorn just confused Fingerprint of the Gods with Hand of the Gods, since fingerprint comes out of a quest.

[Vorn]

I think Vorn just confused Fingerprint of the Gods with Hand of the Gods, since fingerprint comes out of a quest.

No, I'm not even talking about the ability.

I'm talking about and empty useless quest with no reward that should be redone if the ability isn't kept.

Everyone seems to think I'm saying you keep the ability because of the quest, when I'm really saying if you don't. The quest is stupid.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

No, I'm not even talking about the ability.

I'm talking about and empty useless quest with no reward that should be redone if the ability isn't kept.

Everyone seems to think I'm saying you keep the ability because of the quest, when I'm really saying if you don't. The quest is stupid.

They are story quests surrounding the classes. So, I guess main scenario is stupid to you as well. Clearly you're not a person who is super into lore. Guess what? Others are.

Also, we wern't even talking about what you brought up. You just injected it into the discussion as if we knew what you meant and what you were thinking without having to say it.

[ShadowCadja]

No, I'm not even talking about the ability.

I'm talking about and empty useless quest with no reward that should be redone if the ability isn't kept.

Everyone seems to think I'm saying you keep the ability because of the quest, when I'm really saying if you don't. The quest is stupid.

Wait, what? I don't even... ._.