Quote Originally Posted by vanitaslaughing View Post
Agreed, my second Anima's at 141/240 and I nearly cried blood when I realised with my bad luck and never getting bonuses I'll be here for another 9,900 lore I could be using to gear up my other classes.
Having completed three relics (sidenote: Don't do this. It's miserable. I should have stuck with one, MAYBE two), I've come to the conclusion that it's very rare, if not outright impossible, to get 4 or 5 sand until the Umbrite stage is half finished. That is, don't expect to see any at all until your weapon is at 120/240. After 120, 4's and 5's are pretty common. But getting all 3's up to 120 is not bad luck - that's normal.

On all three of my weapons, after 120, 4's and 5's were fairly common.