WHM getting progressively more unnecessary in content?

[Lastelli]

TLDR: WHM's we love you. You do your job Well. But please stop asking for too much and wait for the expansion to come out. They have a plan.

You probably didn't get his point. He was simply saying that on strong and well geared dps, the usefulness of cards is higher in absolute terms. Of course, a 10% damage buff on a dps at 2400 dps is a higher dps increase than the same 10% on a dps doing 1800 dps.

Also, WHM aren't asking for too much. Right now, they're significantly less desirable than AST for any kind of relevant content. AST never was a jack of all trades, it was clearly an inferior choice in the past. The reason why AST is quite overpowered right now lies entirely in their buffs and mana refresh tools which are clearly unbalanced when compared with what whm has to offer and has nothing to do with healing capabilities. Speedkills on fflogs are proof of this fact. This race has basically reduced to "let's see what party is luckier when it comes to drawing balances".

I believe they decided to do this to redeem AST since it was in a bad place before the huge buffs to noct and balance/bole and that they intend to rework all the healers in the next expansion, but still, the situation right now is very skewed in favor of ast.

[Cleftobismal]

Also, WHM aren't asking for too much. Right now, they're significantly less desirable than AST for any kind of relevant content. AST never was a jack of all trades, it was clearly an inferior choice in the past. The reason why AST is quite overpowered right now lies entirely in their buffs and mana refresh tools which are clearly unbalanced when compared with what whm has to offer and has nothing to do with healing capabilities. Speedkills on fflogs are proof of this fact. This race has basically reduced to "let's see what party is luckier when it comes to drawing balances".

This is exactly my point. Why does Scholar and Astrologian need to be like a whm, and do what a WHM does but be worse or even do the same thing. What is the point of having another healer class if we go by your argument on "buffs and mana refresh tools which are clearly unbalanced when compared with what whm has to offer". It's because WHM has a higher mp cost and AST doesn't because your skills do a much more immediate impact on the fight. Yes, you will always beat any other class to do immediate damage and healing. (Hence everyone agrees with WHM being the best dungeon runners) Yes, you will not have a game mechanic that effects the fight in the long run, because you just can't have both.

Ima be honest. As an AST. I always hope and pray that I get paired with a WHM, over a SCH and an AST. And I wouldn't be surprised if many others had the same thought process. You guys are an awesome class and I really just wish you wouldn't not only look down on yourselves like this, but glare at other classes when they stray away from the WHM path.




Also on her DPS point. Sorry misread it. Everything else I said stays the same.

[StrategistShiroe]

Ima be honest. As an AST. I always hope and pray that I get paired with a WHM, over a SCH and an AST. And I wouldn't be surprised if many others had the same thought process. You guys are an awesome class and I really just wish you wouldn't not only look down on yourselves like this, but glare at other classes when they stray away from the WHM path.

We look down on what we bring to the table over the other 2 classes. When everyone shouts "Utility! bring it or bust!" and then you go through the checklist...
Stoneskin/SS II, kinda meh, can be brought via Cross Class.
Protect!...Not Proshell...can be brought via Cross Class.
AOE Heals and Regens...Oh that's pretty much covered by ASTs at this point based on stance.
AOE DPS! Oh wait Most bosses don't need a ton of AOE and we can't keep it up with our lack of MP sustain in comparison.
Stone III and single target DPS! SCH does it better, for longer, while covering basic healing.
Oh hang on that MND party buff! Yeah only WHM brings that party rock in the house!....Well that PLD and other healer can use it right?