WHM getting progressively more unnecessary in content?

[Velox]

That would be their identity if they weren't crippled by ACC requirements (while the other healer jobs have abilities that ignore ACC) or crippled by MP management (again, the other healer jobs have abilities that mitigate this deficiency). If SE wants to keep these as-is, DPS will never suffice as a WHM identity.

As the job stands right now as of 3.4, WHM has the largest number of drawbacks and limitations of every FFXIV job.

[HyperiusUltima]

If they drew back the buffs, won't that still mean WHM is not up to par still? It's more or less need a rework albeit I'm not one for the gimmick of "Every Job has a mechanic"

[Nekotee]

As they state in their liveletter they are aware of the overpowering factor for AST buff
Because they want to push the whole AST pool up disregarding the fact that Top-chart AST will automatically skyrocket

As an AST fanatic I'm far not opposed to that, especially because since AST creation I'm fighting the fake WHM supremacy as top healer
But now I also feel that it was far too much left away, and that WHM really lack fun compare to the other healer

I mean AST got same power of healing, less enmity, less mana cost and far much more group utility

WHM in the opposite got strong firepower for a short time which is perfect for dungeon, less for Raid (not impossible, just not funny to manage)

[NorthernLadMSP]

This topic again. Seems like every week it's the same thing rehashed in a new thread.

[Ghishlain]

Isn't this like saying MNK is getting progressively unnecessary? You could argue that even though it's the highest individual DPS, that extra DPS is unnecessary because MNK has no raid utility. So a DRG could do 90% the DPS of a MNK, but also increase everyone else's DPS with Battle Litany+Disembowel, which pushes the added damage past what the 10% deficit is compared to MNK.

In that regard, WHM has potent heals and HoTs that could allow WHM additional time to throw out Stone III's/Aero's/Asylums. Doesn't WHM have the best single target DPS amongst healers? Couldn't that be their 'raid utility' in a sense?

I'd disagree on the first bit of your post on the fact that there's generally no such thing as "too much DPS" unless you're pushing auto-wipe triggers like in AAR primals. There is such a thing as too much HPS though. With that being said there are other reasons why MNK isn't desirable versus other DPS' ATM that I won't get into as it's pretty off topic to this thread.

If they give WHM a sustainable DPS utility that you're suggesting that would probably make them more desirable overall without changing the HPS kit. I'd personally like to see WHM moved into that direction.

As it stands, AST is far too powerful now and I'm hoping they get a massive kit overhaul in 4.0 to supplement a more unique (and balanced) playstyle.

[Cleftobismal]

This topic again. Seems like every week it's the same thing rehashed in a new thread.

I remember when WHM holy was being nerfed because it did more damage than flare. Bwahahahah Flare was 270 potency at the time I think and holy was 250? (Flare could only be casted twice due to mana cost) This was even before they introduced the more than one monster = lesser damage mechanic.

The complaints were real.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

In that regard, WHM has potent heals and HoTs that could allow WHM additional time to throw out Stone III's/Aero's/Asylums. Doesn't WHM have the best single target DPS amongst healers? Couldn't that be their 'raid utility' in a sense?

People severely overestimate the DPS power of WHM.
Single target, WHM is about as strong as AST. But they don't have the MP with sustain that DPS in an actual battle so it's kinda pointless.

[technole]

Not to mention WHM is more dependent on ACC then AST, because non-aspected DoTs cannot miss compared to Aero skills. Then you have better MP regen on AST since the LA buff and pairing it up CO, it's just too good.

Honestly, they got the QoL stuff correct. We've been asking for CO to do more, we asked for redraw to line-up better and we got that too. But they should have also buffed spear and other cards. Balance didn't need to really get better in the first place. To me it was more of a "throw the dog a bone and they will play it" kind of ordeal.

In a way they were also successful because for Alex Creator Savage all three healers have similar clear rates compared to Midas and Gordias, AST was world first, and White Mage is still in a good place. However one cannot deny the AST kit brings a bit more to the table this tier and in no way is WHM considered "safer" either. I think static pressure is also up too, DPS grumbling when WHM doesn't go AST can be felt in some groups.

[Yawnie]

Haven't you made a thread like this already?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

By my count, four, more or less. Admittedly I haven't paid as much attention.