Monk Macros with Proper Rotation!

[Crysten]

Christ on a bike, is this still going?

Thread should have ended with the below post (thank you so much for taking the time, Helspites):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFCRXdFR7iw

Case and point - macros create poor players that do less DPS. In other news, sky is blue, grass is green, and OP is terrible.

[Bloody]

If Player A is doing 1000 DPS, and Player B is doing 800 DPS, Player B is doing 80% of Player A's DPS, right?

So at 2 minutes, aka 120 seconds, Player A's total damage should be 120000 damage. Player B will be at 96000 damage.
96000/120000 = 96/120 = 80%
So at 2 hours 15 minutes, aka 135 minutes or 8100 seconds, Player A's total damage should be 8,100,000 damage, and Player B should be at 6,480,000 total damage.
6480000/8100000 = 648/810 = 80%

The total damage numbers will increase over time. But as long as the two DPS numbers remain constant, the percentage difference between the total damage numbers will remain constant. Where you will see variances is due to cooldown use. Neither Player A nor Player B will use their cooldown exactly the same way, especially when comparing various methods for doing things! And so their constant 1000 DPS and 800 DPS, or whatever the actual DPS comes out to be for any given period, will not be the same for all such given periods.

This is true, assuming other factors aren't involved. Phase shifts and other mechanics that ruin a combo will break the macros, and result in a DPS plummet during such mechanics.

But with macros the gap between the number gcds used versus a non macros rotation increases over time.. there for increasing the dps gap

While that may seem true, the percentage values actually stay the same (barring aforementioned mechanical interference). As Roth pointed out, raw values will increase, but percentages will remain constant, assuming no interference. The instant mechanics cause rotation pauses, this difference grows massively (as already mentioned by others).

Macros are good for:
Announcing key skills like: Raise, Mantra, Berserk, Provoke, Blunt Arrow, HG/HG/LD, etc.
Crafting and Gathering
Making loot lists (back before lootmaster or even now to show newcomers who has reserved what)
Making miscellaneous chat/emote/action combos (which I expect to see in that APR performance on the 30th to help with lengthy lines in the script)

Macros are NOT good for:
Combat rotations

Macros are in the game for a lot of reasons, but just like existing gear, this rule applies: Its existence doesn't guarantee its usefulness. Remember that.

[0Lime]

I just love how you're a level 54 monk trying to tell people that have way more experience than you at the game that they are somehow wrong, and you are right. Telling new players it's okay to use macros for rotations is basically saying to them "hey guys it's okay to be bad and never want to improve yourself!" as someone that is trying to help players in the game shouldn't you be trying to help them improve in the game, and not just limit themselves to macros? Even if they are casual players, they should learn to play the game properly, and not rely on macros that basically clip their ankles. You also don't seem to understand the meaning of midcore.

[bardaboo]

What i find funny is he says it's competitive at all levels but when someone says try it in a hard fight his defense is always "but fates and low lvl dungeons!"

[Saku_Hitomi]

Ok I know people gave up on this post last month but here's my view.

So I'm a Lvl57 MNK, I have used macros in the past and I'm afraid I agree with everyone here who are saying "They don't work".
They're saying this because for DPS purposes they don't, infact even I found they decreased my DPS quite substantially. Having fought with macros and without and I have found kicking off your rotation without them in a macro my damage a lot higher than them being used in macros, when I used macros my DPS was so low, barely causing damage they really are not advised unless they're the ones stating who your healing or a pull count down.
My rotation with the help of an amazing mentor deals so much dmg.
I don't have video proof, but why should we show video proof of our own personal experiences? I get your trying to help people, but others are trying to help you, from personal experiences of playing this game and going through what your doing right now.
Easier isn't always the best way.

[Tigerlilley]

I can't believe someone just prefaced a post with "it's my $15, I'll play the way I want to" without it being a joke.

People on this forum are so incredibly entitled and unwilling to be a decent team player. It's incredible.

[LunaFaye]

People on this forum are so incredibly entitled and unwilling to be a decent team player. It's incredible.

It's not just on the forums, the players in game are more tolerant than to old ARR times. Not sure if they are scared to kick people nowadays or if by now it's declared as the "norm". Having stated my opinion in some other threads about the same non sense, last night I thought well let's put it to the test.

Knowing damn well that using macro's on a dps class is not just wrong, but absolute intolerable. I joined on my alt a level 60 dungeon, that is a bit out of date but still a good indicator that you can't slack with your rotations or this run will take extremely long, with the healer having to spam heal the tank since we can't make it through the regular trash already lol.

I kid you not, I had literally 345 dps in ilvl240 using macros, and instead of being kicked and or asked if I am trolling, or offered advice since my character still has the little green leaf, it was tolerated. At the end of the run I asked " did I do great?" and people actually answered that I did a good job for a newer player.

I was astonished because I still don't understand why we are tolerating such behavior. I can understand being a bit more patient with newer players, or players coming back, but why we tolerating that in this circumstance I could have gone afk and still get a pat on my back at the end. Probably for the same reason we have topics like that, that suggest dps using macro's because they are paying $15 a month.

[Keikun]

Toxic community being toxic.

[Tigerlilley]

I kid you not, I had literally 345 dps in ilvl240 using macros, and instead of being kicked and or asked if I am trolling, or offered advice since my character still has the little green leaf, it was tolerated. At the end of the run I asked " did I do great?
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Lol if it makes you feel better I absolutely would have called you out on 345 at ilvl240. Absolutely. Green leaf or not!

[Canadane]

Macros are good for:
Announcing key skills like: Raise, Mantra, Berserk, Provoke, Blunt Arrow, HG/HG/LD, etc.

Those seem like the skills you want to have fail the least possible time when used. Why subject them to a macro?
Unless you mean a macro just for announcing it while you still press your ability normally.