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    Few things:

    1. Macros are okay if you're feeling lazy and doing content where you can be lazy (Fate farming, story fights, etc) - however the error you've made is in claiming that they're "competitive". As others have pointed out, there is an inherent GCD delay in GCD Macros (you can even see this in your own follow-up video) - a roughly ~5-10% DPS loss over the course of a fight. That isn't competitive, that's flat out worse, and the barrier you'd need to leap over to get that extra DPS is a very small one.

    2. You mention that Monk "has a lot of buttons" but, in reality, it has very few. For example I can fit all my stance-related GCDs on Q, E, 1, 2, 3, and 4 - these are all well within range of WASD and make it very easy to execute any string of combos whenever I want on a standard USB KB+M.

    3. While it's nice that you want to help players, a teacher is typically one with tons of info and experience regarding what they're teaching. You are clearly new to Monk as you've yet to even reach 60 - which isn't a bad thing, everyone's been where you are, but you shouldn't be spreading information you haven't verified with more experienced players or, alternatively, you can wait and get that experience yourself.

    Also just some educational video editing related stuff:

    - Don't need a face cam unless you're actually an important part of the video - people will have an easier time concentrating if the only thing they can see is the gameplay footage when they need to be looking at it.

    - If you are going to include a face cam, don't put your face 2 feet away from it. This isn't flattering for anyone as it makes you look like you're breathing down the viewers neck.

    - It's better to include ways to contact/follow you at the end of the video or at the beginning rather than taking up a portion of your screen throughout the whole video. Just makes it feel cluttered that way, especially when you have a face cam and a text document on it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
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    I have been playing FF14 for over 2 years Spooky with over 9 60's at max level. My youtube channel(I understand if you do not go there to verify) Clearly explains what happened to my old account. So just on basis on my current account has no factor on my knowledge in which I can understand others would get that misconception. And if you took every button individually, http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Monk, http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Pugilist minus everything except basic attacks needed at 60 for your rotation you are still left with 18 buttons. Thats not even including buffs! So Monks do have alot of buttons as do other Jobs. And the sole purpose of this thread and my videos was to show a proper way to macro if someone chooses to, not that it is the only way to play. Lastly, thank you for your feedback on improving my videos and channel and I will consider it for future details. Take care.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    I have been playing FF14 for over 2 years Spooky with over 9 60's at max level.
    If you have over 9 60's, how can you think that MNK has a lot of buttons and how can you think that macros are a good idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    If you have over 9 60's, how can you think that MNK has a lot of buttons and how can you think that macros are a good idea?
    http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Monk, http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Pugilist Count the amount of buttons you have to use to effectively play Monk including your aoes that you will need if the situation arrives, the buffs you need to activate, your movement abilities, your stuns and silences.....the list goes on!

    If you do not use those abilities but rely solely on your base rotation, you need to practice Monk a little more. Lastly, Macros are a good idea when it comes to content like fate farming, solo quests, Low Level Dungeons with only a few buttons.....again do I really have to list the casual content it can be used for. Under this Kaurie, I do not recommend or will I ever recommend relying solely on Macros. Players need to learn to play the game with and without Macros if they choose to use macros, if the dont use Macros.....then nothing is lost. Macros are something to use as a tool when it comes to content that does not hinder other players or negate top dps as needed....thats all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Monk , http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Pugilist Count the amount of buttons you have to use to effectively play Monk including your aoes that you will need if the situation arrives, the buffs you need to activate, your movement abilities, your stuns and silences.....the list goes on!
    I do not need to count them, you already did. You said there are 18. By comparison, my SMN has 4 12 key hotbars completely full (48), and I use ~30 of them frequently. By comparison, 18 seems laughably small. I've also leveled my MNK via PotD and obtained all skills that way and it was a joy to have such an empty hotbar.

    If you do not use those abilities but rely solely on your base rotation, you need to practice onk a little more. Lastly, Macros are a good idea when it comes to content like fate farming, solo quests, Low Level Dungeons with only a few buttons.....again do I really have to list the casual content it can be used for. Under this Kaurie, I do not recommend or will I ever recommend relying solely on Macros. Players need to learn to play the game with and without Macros if they choose to use macros, if the dont use Macros.....then nothing is lost. Macros are something to use as a tool when it comes to content that does not hinder other players or negate top dps as needed....thats all!
    I cannot critique your macros, unfortunately, as you're not listing what they actually are or do.
    I use macros for one purpose: targeting. I use the ground target macro for things like Shadowflare, and the <2> or <tt> for things like Eye for an Eye and Virus.
    EDIT: I also have a macro to party chat who I am raising, so that healers don't attempt to raise the same player.
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    Last edited by Kaurie; 11-30-2016 at 12:57 AM.

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